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FWFTA March 1/2007

Mikesmadd: we are testing a 146 release candidate now.

One more C/P FWFTA

First, Team Reliable is more dedicated to the ExtremeView Magnum than ever and we have a great relationship. We are in full control of the full source code for the Magnum and can make it do whatever we want! There has NEVER been a box on the FTA scene that listened to the users and responded like the Magnum users have been privey to.

Second, faulty hardware... come on... there are thousands of Magnums out there. They are all working. If they quit ExtremeView replaces them. No questions asked. Period. So you can try to ride the "bad hardware" vehicle in every direction but you're always gonna run into a dead end.

Thanks to all the Magnum Supporters,
Mikesmadd

Best way to put it to rest is release a decent working bin for users without the recent minor/major issues. Talk is getting pretty cheap these days.

But good to hear hope is on the way. This will be the 10th release in a little over a month, and that's how long a lot of us have been waiting to enjoy any trouble-free TV with our Magnums.

One more C/P FWFTA

First, Team Reliable is more dedicated to the ExtremeView Magnum than ever and we have a great relationship. We are in full control of the full source code for the Magnum and can make it do whatever we want! There has NEVER been a..... ..
Mikesmadd

obviously NOT,, cause,, well,, it would be working now, wouldn't it?

just an observation,,,

the results so far aren't following the rhetoric,,, :(

Couldn't it be they NOW have full source and not have it before...which would give a good BIN this time round.

we will wait and see got so bad today went back to viewsat `143 b got so bad hope the new bin works:beer: :hat:

Couldn't it be they NOW have full source and not have it before...which would give a good BIN this time round.

I'll give you that..and hope that you are correct,, for your customers sakes
Seriously,, it would be good to see magnum start climbing again,,, set backs happen,,, some last longer than others,, (some are self inflicted)

Here we go again..I can see it coming:no:

\Second, faulty hardware... come on... there are thousands of Magnums out there. They are all working. If they quit ExtremeView replaces them.

most of them have quit ..i know mine and mostly everyone i mistakenly hooked up with one have quit..replaced ..sure..big deal..the chip died causing death didnt it..i mean thats the scuttle since they havent esplained why so many units continuue to just die..most have surmized this..blah bla blah...the st whatever chip is great we will hear..the Koreans didnt think so as they failed to intregrate it into fta..

come on..now doesnt that sound like hardware to u?

One more C/P FWFTA

First, Team Reliable is more dedicated to the ExtremeView Magnum than ever and we have a great relationship. We are in full control of the full source code for the Magnum and can make it do whatever we want! There has NEVER been a box on the FTA scene that listened to the users and responded like the Magnum users have been privey to.

Second, faulty hardware... come on... there are thousands of Magnums out there. They are all working. If they quit ExtremeView replaces them. No questions asked. Period. So you can try to ride the "bad hardware" vehicle in every direction but you're always gonna run into a dead end.

Thanks to all the Magnum Supporters,
Mikesmadd

glad to hear that they are working on a new bin and who cares at this point if it is a hardware issue or code issue bottom line in my opinion is that most people have had enough with the excuses and different sets of bins to try if this bin fails they are done and if it is a winner then more power to them but if i were one of the mag reps i would not start gloating if the bin seems to work at first give it time and hopefully it will be a good bin

One more C/P FWFTA

First, Team Reliable is more dedicated to the ExtremeView Magnum than ever and we have a great relationship. We are in full control of the full source code for the Magnum and can make it do whatever we want! There has NEVER been a box on the FTA scene that listened to the users and responded like the Magnum users have been privey to.

Second, faulty hardware... come on... there are thousands of Magnums out there. They are all working. If they quit ExtremeView replaces them. No questions asked. Period. So you can try to ride the "bad hardware" vehicle in every direction but you're always gonna run into a dead end.

Thanks to all the Magnum Supporters,
Mikesmadd

and hash its great to finally hear something 2 weeks later from the coders but isn't it about time we see a true working bin talk is cheap and seeing is beleiveing i hope this bin is perfect because i really do feel the coders are working as hard as they can

Lookin' forward to 146...still runnin' 145 on DN here with no real issues...can't you guys come up with anything original?:no:

You guys really need to find a new hobby....:wacko: One that you fully understand:yes:

Jethro

and your running let me guess a magnum:lol: another 1 post wonder are you helping anyone on this forum or did you just stop by to start something

Lookin' forward to 146...still runnin' 145 on DN here with no real issues...can't you guys come up with anything original?:no:

no real issues:lol: here we go again is right woofy gruner is that you what happened to the first post you had that i quoted

another 1 post wonder are you helping anyone on this forum or did you just stop by to start something
If I end up being a one post wonder its because of negativity...Lets all be positive...BTW...I don't have to start anything here ...it started before I got here:rolleyes:

another 1 post wonder are you helping anyone on this forum or did you just stop by to start something
If I end up being a one post wonder its because of negativity...Lets all be positive...BTW...I don't have to start anything here ...it started before I got here:rolleyes:

your right there are a lot of pissed off magnum users that are tired of running a magnum because of it's constant problems i guess it's boreing over at fwfta huh

Lookin' forward to 146...still runnin' 145 on DN here with no real issues...can't you guys come up with anything original?:no:
No "Real" issues? You mean the kind where the box jumps up and beats you to death? Me thinks you're trying to spin BS into gold. Lame. Strange how the do gooders from some strange do good land come straight here and post strange do good tales. If you and the sale team peeps keep pushing this absurd assertion then I think the Maggie is heading to the dumps. A one provider wonder box for the simple twits. How great it is, for you and your group only. And yes, let us all be positive, your sales must depend on it...don't let the facts get in your way.

No "Real" issues? You mean the kind where the box jumps up and beats you to death? Me thinks you're trying to spin BS into gold. Lame. Strange how the do gooders from some strange do good land come straight here and post strange do good tales. If you and the sale team peeps keep pushing this absurd assertion then I think the Maggie is heading to the dumps. A one provider wonder box for the simple twits. How great it is, for you and your group only.

one2one it happens everytime there is a hint of good news from team reliable they come out of the woodwork and as soon as things go south they head for the hills, i would say it's do or die time for magnum and if it does go south i hope thebroken publicley offers me 350.00 for my magnum oh i forgot that deal never went threw:lol:

The back patters and braggers have all disappeared. I am sure they will be back if they get a decent bin going for the Magnum. Mine is still running pretty good with just DN. A few bumps at times but mostly good. I am running one just to test new releases.

your right chuck if the new bin works they will flock here and if it goes bad they will say try this or that for a day or 2 and then disappear but who knows maybe the coders will suprise us all and get it right this time then we could all get along:lol:

That would be very nice. :D

My EVMag is running just fine. I try all bins, and currently watching tv with the 145 bin. Can't complain. It's free tv.

No "Real" issues? You mean the kind where the box jumps up and beats you to death?

I WANT an stb that jumps up and tries to beat me to death...that's what I call testing. LOL. On a serious note, they really are hurting themselves. I came very close to ordering myself a Magnum. I changed my mind when I started reading all the posts. One person would slam the Magnums, another would shoot down Coolsats, Viewsats, etc. It has become a slamming contest...a sort of "MY dad can beat up YOUR dad" attitude. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. I get a laugh out how many people take this SO seriously. If we were in room together, I truly believe that some of the members would go to blows...and over something SO stupid. While some people may be out of line, for the most part, most are simply saying that Magnum is lacking. Based upon what I have been reading, this cannot be denied. What other fta brands DO or NOT DO, is IRRELEVANT if the discussion if focused on the Magmum. All I know is that I have not been impressed enough to buy a Magnum...yet. After all, remember that many of us are testers and this box may actually be fun if you are not a free-tver. I may eventually buy one, but I think I will wait until they work out a few more bugs. What counts is that they ARE TRYING.

No denying, support is there, i just hope if they get things right, people will actually admit it, and not bash the bad parts. Iyou can bash the bad parts of the bin, hopefully they can applaud the good parts as well.

While some people may be out of line, for the most part, most are simply saying that Magnum is lacking. Based upon what I have been reading, this cannot be denied.
Kinda obvious that Jethro came here on a mission. The problem looks more to me like some people are not willing to admit or accept there is any problem with the Magnum's performance. I liked it up to v1.38, and admit it. After that, not much good to report. Sure, you can still get a little free TV, but that's nothing to brag about.

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FWFTA March 1/2007

Mikesmadd: we are testing a 146 release candidate now.

hi,running 145 bin on two maggies,both still have 2 games installed,can they remove them?,& free up bandwith for improving bin results,wouldnt trade my mags for any stb.

No "Real" issues? You mean the kind where the box jumps up and beats you to death? Me thinks you're trying to spin BS into gold. Lame. Strange how the do gooders from some strange do good land come straight here and post strange do good tales. If you and the sale team peeps keep pushing this absurd assertion then I think the Maggie is heading to the dumps. A one provider wonder box for the simple twits. How great it is, for you and your group only. And yes, let us all be positive, your sales must depend on it...don't let the facts get in your way.


The fact is ExtremeView sells true Free-To-Air Receivers.... Anything else is just a bonus! I've had it with your smart@ss, "cruel to be kind" bashing techniques. If you don't like the magnum sell it and move on. But quit standing on the sidelines offering nothing but insults! Magnum users come here for support not insults and bashing. My question is who's paying you to bash the Magnum? There is no other box on the market with support like the magnum. None! Yeah, I'm bragging(or chest thumping as you non-supportive smart@sses call it)... I can brag about it because I provide the support! Who do you support??? What coding do you do? What bins do you produce? Fact, no other box lets the customer interact with the coders like the Magnum. Fact, no other box on the market offers a "No Questions Asked" instant return warranty like the Magnum. Fact, we are trying to code, develop and innovate... what are you doing? nothing?

Get a life...
Mikesmadd

The fact is ExtremeView sells true Free-To-Air Receivers....
Mikesmadd

So, is that why we are here? Testing Free-To-Air TV? We don't need any support for that. Go home, any Factory Bin will do. But this Bonus is the sole of your support, a promised and expected feature with every sale. You've released 9 bins full of bugs and when testing them gives negative results and very troublesome TV you become insulted with the reports. Then comes The Sales Support Team trying to minimize, and discredit the results..."Only minor issues." This is an insult. The problems are not minor. I don't like the Sales Team BS. You should be insulted.

Magnum users come here for support and facts relating to issues and performance. The issues get reported, and the cover up blame game begins. The Magnum has problems, you should spend more time on correcting them than on damage control.

So, is that why we are here? Testing Free-To-Air TV? We don't need any support for that. Go home, any Factory Bin will do. But this Bonus is the sole of your support, a promised and expected feature with every sale. You've released 10 bins full of bugs and when testing them gives negative results and very troublesome TV you become insulted with the reports. Then comes The Sales Support Team trying to minimize, and discredit the results..."Only minor issues." This is an insult. The problems are not minor. I don't like the Sales Team BS. You should be insulted.

Magnum users come here for support and facts relating to issues and performance. The issues get reported, and the cover up blame game begins. The Magnum has problems, you should spend more time on correcting them than on damage control.

and you, my friend, should stop being so critical here, and such a "kiss @ss" at fwfta.

no wonder I got out of this, sick of all the two faced BS.

there is no "cover up", only suggestions on what is working by the posters that come here from fwfta and try to help.

no worries, all Staff at fwfta has been told NOT to come here to try to help, cuz it is NOT appreciated here.

have fun, cuz we sure are...

So, is that why we are here? Testing Free-To-Air TV? We don't need any support for that. Go home, any Factory Bin will do. But this Bonus is the sole of your support, a promised and expected feature with every sale. You've released 9 bins full of bugs and when testing them gives negative results and very troublesome TV you become insulted with the reports. Then comes The Sales Support Team trying to minimize, and discredit the results..."Only minor issues." This is an insult. The problems are not minor. I don't like the Sales Team BS. You should be insulted.

Magnum users come here for support and facts relating to issues and performance. The issues get reported, and the cover up blame game begins. The Magnum has problems, you should spend more time on correcting them than on damage control.

Who the hell gave you or SetWire the right to speak for ALL the Magnum users? I don't know who you think you are but if you want to start attacking me, my team and our coding ability... that is a VERY bad idea. But you will never read a threat written by me.

Promised???? Expected???? By who... you??? Fact... It is neither promised nor expected! I've released 9 bins... and how many have you released? What support have you offered? What helpful word have you ever offered me, forum members, or lastly, Magnum users?

None... Soooo.. I would say that now is a really good time for you to STOP escalating this. Your attempt to piss me off is not far from succeeding!

Mikesmadd

The fact is ExtremeView sells true Free-To-Air Receivers.... Anything else is just a bonus! I've had it with your smart@ss, "cruel to be kind" bashing techniques. If you don't like the magnum sell it and move on. But quit standing on the sidelines offering nothing but insults! Magnum users come here for support not insults and bashing. My question is who's paying you to bash the Magnum? There is no other box on the market with support like the magnum. None! Yeah, I'm bragging(or chest thumping as you non-supportive smart@sses call it)... I can brag about it because I provide the support! Who do you support??? What coding do you do? What bins do you produce? Fact, no other box lets the customer interact with the coders like the Magnum. Fact, no other box on the market offers a "No Questions Asked" instant return warranty like the Magnum. Fact, we are trying to code, develop and innovate... what are you doing? nothing?

Get a life...
Mikesmadd

and you, my friend, should stop being so critical here, and such a "kiss @ss" at fwfta.

no wonder I got out of this, sick of all the two faced BS.

there is no "cover up", only suggestions on what is working by the posters that come here from fwfta and try to help.

no worries, all Staff at fwfta has been told NOT to come here to try to help, cuz it is NOT appreciated here.

have fun, cuz we sure are...

mikesmadd you got to be kidding do you know anyone who bought a magnum that did not expect the bonus as you put it if it was intended for true free to air use you would not have a job or did i miss something

and justme how many times are you going to state that you are out of this or retired because you never left

Don't let them get to ya Mikesmadd, the usual 2 or 3 thrive on pissing people off. They can't take away the great support provided no matter what they say or do. Us patient Magnum owners have confidence in TR, the others all seem to think you owe them something, which you don't. This STB has paid for itself 10 folds over...........and here comes the usual 2-3.

Looks like another Magnum thread will be coming to a close. Kind of a trend here. :D

Looks like another Magnum thread will be coming to a close. Kind of a trend here. :D

Doesn't that make you wonder Chuck?? No other forum has had as many closed threads in a Magnum section. None. It's the culmination of the usual 2 or s**t disturbers and magnum owners defending themselves at every turn. Anyways, you hit the nail on the head, there is a pattern here and if you look in every closed thread it's the same 2-3 bashing and nothing gets done about it cause i guess they are senior or paying members.

the premise behind any fta ird sale is 'free tv'.. your own posts about promising the fixes and even dtv support was solely designed to drive sales, which, it has.
Saying it's a bonus is true,, but,, it was a promised bonus (we do it Right, not right away).
Cool down mikes,, your getting shit on because the promises you have made haven't panned out ... yet... EVERY fta coding team has gone through the same,,, what would make you think you're above criticism?

Setwire and one2one don't speak for ALL magnum users,, they do share the same thoughts and ideas as hundreds,, even thousands of magnum users who are getting frustrated with the promises and seemingly non delivery. They also represent the thoughts and ideas about your 'sales team tactics',, which really is obvious to everyone... they are spin doctors plain and simple..

Wouldn't it be easier to say "CRAP!.. it's still not working right, we're still working on it, thanks for your input and patience" instead of
"Hey,, it's the cheap switches,, use better switches" "Hey, mine works fine, must be something you're doing" etc etc... (we all know there is problems, stop denying and redirecting blame)
This is not a bash,, I have never bashed the unit OR the coding team. I have bashed the delivery system of talking heads and their tactics and the fact that it seems TR et al do send people to various forums to downplay the very real and obvious problems (that are NOT end user related).

One quick question??


Why is it, whenever a support person feels angered or threatened, he/she will always say.. "We sell true FTA .. every thing else is a bonus" ?? Just curious,, as I said before, we ALL (including DN and the other) know the reason these sell. Want proof?? try flogging these boxes and true FTA only... see how many you sell..

enough said.. (by the way,, or in forumese BTW.. you did threaten, just before you said we'd never read a threat from you... )

Best of luck with the new bin,, I've been reading from those that report such things that it is working well... and I truly hope it pans out and gets magnum on the rise again.

Looks like another Magnum thread will be coming to a close. Kind of a trend here. :D

Hahahaha... as long as closing the thread stops the bashing then more power to ya bro! Kind of a trend... what... closing threads to stop bashing? Nice! But don't close it for me, I'll keep defending my team no matter what thread I'm in. We don't OWE you people anything! No disrespect but this is rediculus, the whole thread was just a simple announcement to inform people about progress we were making. Maybe it would be better to just leave everyone in the dark concerning upcoming releases! Would you people prefer that?

Mikesmadd

Hahahaha... as long as closing the thread stops the bashing then more power to ya bro! Kind of a trend... what... closing threads to stop bashing? Nice! But don't close it for me, I'll keep defending my team no matter what thread I'm in. We don't OWE you people anything! No disrespect but this is rediculus, the whole thread was just a simple announcement to inform people about progress we were making. Maybe it would be better to just leave everyone in the dark concerning upcoming releases! Would you people prefer that?

Mikesmadd

again mike,, that's NOT the way to increase sales and confidence is it?? Cliche to say the least (EVERY FTA ird has said that at one time or another right??).. what you are saying,,,
"We make promises of providing special code so you will buy our stuff,,, but.. don't expect us to keep those promises..."

after all,, you've got their money now... right?? what's it really matter??

C'mon,, you guys are better than that...

mikesmadd thx for working on 146

no wonder I got out of this, sick of all the two faced BS.

..

..funwfta..ya we heard you bailed out ... so stay out

usual 2 or 3...i rest my case.

...and such a "kiss @ss" at fwfta.

And what in the world are you talking about?
I don't remember even posting anything there after v1.38 slipped...after that, I made it a point not to post anything since it seemed to be all about a Magnum support for sales site only, offering non-solutions and big runarounds before even considering what you now call minor issues...or non-issues. The Magnum has been testing poorly with v1.40-v1.45, and that's a fact Jack. No way am I going to disconnect my other 3 dishes, or replace my working switches, just to use it. Hey, here's an idea...why not take notice of the shortcomings now present and work on solving the problems? or then again, "What shortcomings?" is more what I expect.

justme quit as an admin at fwfta..
that does not mean he cannot come here and visit and say his piece..
we welcome everyone here, until they make themselves un-welcome...

in my books,, just me isn't anywhere near that point,, and I doubt if he will ever be..

there is a real easy solution to settle all of these disagreements mikesmadd let your work speak for itself put out a glitch free working bin because so far no matter how you spin it it has not happened since the 138 bin

Glad to hear you working on The new 146 bin Mike. Now someone close this thread to get rid of these CLOWNS !!!!!!!

I've been around justme on other FTA sites and non-FTA sites under different nicks for quite awhile. I always liked the guy and had high hopes for the FWFTA site when I saw him there. But I'd still like to meet that 2-faced version of me he mentions. Most likely it is pre-v1.4x dated, or shortly thereafter, and I probably made many similar positive posts right here at that time. I had high expectations for the Magnum, it looked good, tested good. And then they took it South, which is not the worse part, the worse part being "It is still the best box around" mindset, when at a point it is hardly usable.

I agree, talk is cheap. Give us a good working bin and let it speak for itself. That's the only speaker I will really listen to at this point.

Glad to hear you working on The new 146 bin Mike. Now someone close this thread to get rid of these CLOWNS !!!!!!!
And maybe you can tell me...how many clowns can you pack in that little car?

Ya know ...i don't have a dog in this fight, and never post in these magnum threads, but looks like someone needs to take a course in how to win friends and influence enemies.

The fact is ExtremeView sells true Free-To-Air Receivers.... Anything else is just a bonus!

We don't OWE you people anything!

Is this the banner that magnum plans on using for their new sales campaign? If it is, I will bet it will make thousands of sales. (for other FTA manufacturers)

would of like to see those ^ 2 post at the bottom of the feature list in november when i got mine.

Ya know ...i don't have a dog in this fight, and never post in these magnum threads, but looks like someone needs to take a course in how to win friends and influence enemies.





Is this the banner that magnum plans on using for their new sales campaign? If it is, I will bet it will make thousands of sales. (for other FTA manufacturers)

Nice hijack magic0!!!!
I'm not a sales person... I'm a coder and every word in my post is TRUE! You'll have to do better than this to effect Magnum "sales". LOL. If you don't have a dog in this fight... why are you posting? Is somebody paying you to trash me and the Magnum crew? Sounds like the scare tactics of other FTA MFGs.

Mikesmadd

have sold a few maggies but after listening to it,s salesman /coder it will be the last maggies i will sell hope other dealers will do the same ,only came to this site to get the lowdown good luck mike:beer: :hat:

have sold a few maggies but after listening to it,s salesman /coder it will be the last maggies i will sell hope other dealers will do the same ,only came to this site to get the lowdown good luck mike:beer: :hat:

Where are all the slams on the 1 post wonders now? If you don't want to sale maggies... then don't. That affects your bottomline margins... not mine. The Magnum is bigger that me and you! I could care less if you sale them or not. People will just have to buy them from someone else. Quit calling me a salesman. I am supporting the Magnum and will be releasing a new bin soon! Files have been in Beta all week and it has not been TR only doing the testing. I have even asked for testing help (without any response) from some of the primary posters in this thread. So... buy... don't buy... support is here and unfailing!

Mikesmadd

Enough talk lets see the bin and we will judge how it work and see if MAGNUMS are still a preferred product.
It is like going to the WWF to much talk not enough do.

Where are we? On the playground at PS 23 at lunchtime? This whole thread has gotten ridiculous. Both sides have and make valid points but why degrade yourselves with this childish back and forth banter. I've been in this "hobby" a long, long time and am "testing" plastic and FTA units. The magnum is clearly a superior unit, and yes there are problems with the bins. Some running fine on some boxes and not doing so fine on many, many more. The coders are aware of this and are working on it. Why are you bashing them and pissing them off? (Do you work for the providers?) That's a real fast way to get your unit to work for what it's designed for (true FTA). I think apologies should be given to the rest of us members who came to this thread to read about the 146 bin and it's progress and instead wasted our time reading the "my dog's bigger than your dog" schoolyard crap! I certainly see no point in this thread and think it should be closed unless it goes in the direction of it's intended purpose. The 146 bin!

Mikesmadd, I would be glad to help you test the bin if you still need peeps to try it.

Where are we? On the playground at PS 23 at lunchtime? This whole thread has gotten ridiculous. Both sides have and make valid points but why degrade yourselves with this childish back and forth banter. I've been in this "hobby" a long, long time and am "testing" plastic and FTA units. The magnum is clearly a superior unit, and yes there are problems with the bins. Some running fine on some boxes and not doing so fine on many, many more. The coders are aware of this and are working on it. Why are you bashing them and pissing them off? (Do you work for the providers?) That's a real fast way to get your unit to work for what it's designed for (true FTA). I think apologies should be given to the rest of us members who came to this thread to read about the 146 bin and it's progress and instead wasted our time reading the "my dog's bigger than your dog" schoolyard crap! I certainly see no point in this thread and think it should be closed unless it goes in the direction of it's intended purpose. The 146 bin!

Mikesmadd, I would be glad to help you test the bin if you still need peeps to try it.

Thanks Kidgrumpy,
I'm sorry if my banter offended you I didn't wish that. But sometimes enough is enough with the negative attacks on us. Your post is just what this thread needed! PM me and we will discuss the details of beta testing.

Mikesmadd

I'm glad to see you here MIKE ! I have a question for you about BIN 146 ( and future ones ) : it will decode also GlobeCast ??.. I want to put this issue to SLEEP and I need ( like many others ) an honest answer ! YES or NO !?
Hope this will not disturb anyone ; thanks ! :)

Not a hijack mike ...just stating the facts. Everytime there is a magnum thread, we get bashers, and you know that. How do you handle these bashers, by stating "We don't OWE you people anything!" Coder, salesman, president of the company...it makes no difference. A repersenative is just that. Did I ever trash you. Not the first time. Everyone here knows I do plastic and could care less about any FTA. Just the way it is. I certainly don't appreciate being falsly accused tho.

The magnum is clearly a superior unit.

clearly.. now list the things that make it so..because heres a short list of the things that "clearly" are in opposition to that statement

..epg is unstable and loaded with no info
..no ac3
..no dual provider watchabilty
..rescanning after every bin
...multiple loading of bins
...freezing bins
..unproven main processor chip(refering to what MM said about Koreans)
..bulky remote and the previous channel button is way out of place
..unstable bins
... many many magnums that just fail to power up we were "clearly"never told why
..bins that say they will do one thing and never meet expectations
..support that takes to long to come out with a fix
...DTV phase one..."clearly" a sales ploy
...and "clearly" problems with communicating facts vs fantasy

save your fingers if the response is gonna be blah blah processor speed and memory..perhaps the magnum rocket has more fuel..but "clearly" not a better rocket

Not a hijack mike ...just stating the facts. Everytime there is a magnum thread, we get bashers, and you know that. How do you handle these bashers, by stating "We don't OWE you people anything!" Coder, salesman, president of the company...it makes no difference. A repersenative is just that. Did I ever trash you. Not the first time. Everyone here knows I do plastic and could care less about any FTA. Just the way it is. I certainly don't appreciate being falsly accused tho.

The facts in this thread should be centered around the announcing of bin V146. That is the only facts that anyone wants to read about here. Do you have something to offer about the V146 bin? Once again...If you don't have a dog in this fight... why are you posting?

Yo8bps... the 146 bin will be Globecast ready. Which means if you have the latest GC keys you can enter them and watch TV... GC autoroll is not completed yet!

Mikesmadd

Thanks ! :) :)

clearly.. now list the things that make it so..because heres a short list of the things that "clearly" are in opposition to that statement

..epg is unstable and loaded with no info
..no ac3
..no dual provider watchabilty
..rescanning after every bin
...multiple loading of bins
...freezing bins
..unproven main processor chip(refering to what MM said about Koreans)
..bulky remote and the previous channel button is way out of place
..unstable bins
... many many magnums that just fail to power up we were "clearly"never told why
..bins that say they will do one thing and never meet expectations
..support that takes to long to come out with a fix
...DTV phase one..."clearly" a sales ploy
...and "clearly" problems with communicating facts vs fantasy

It's nice to see that you got the point I was trying to make in my post.
Almost all of what you have pointed out are NOT THE UNIT but the sw and I don't intend to get into pissing contest with you. Reread the rest of my post and you'll see my thoughts on that.

Personally, I believe this thread should have been closed after the anouncement of the 146 bin if what you say is true. Maybe only you should have replied stating it was being tested and nothing more. See, I do care about the members of this forum, and have no agenda here to sell anything whatsoever unlike yourself. I think your remarks show that you could care less about anything other than peddleing your wares. I sir have been nothing but cordial to you, and have not received equal nor fair treatment in my book. I have added a comment to your reputation on how I actually feel.

Now...I will close this thread. I would suggest in the future to try to be more understanding with members who have purchased one of these receivers and still have not got what they thought they were buying.



Is this the kind of representation that Magnum wants? I would certainly hope not.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r21/magic0_photo/magnum.jpg

SO why are we discussing a bin that has not been released? You can say all you want about how good its going to be but the real test and proof will be when we load it to our Magnums and see for ourselves.

I am very disappointed in this receiver since the 138 bin. Nothing but problems and work around solutions.

Get us a bin that works with very few flaws and we will be happy. Until then you will need to answer to those that bought these receivers.

Dont owe us anything? Wish I had seen that before I bought two of them. Mine are still put away and am using my other brand that is working very well.