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12-12-2006, 10:30 AM
Well dish is up to their tricks again, but so far the Maggy has not flinched. GO MAGNUM GO!
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View Full Version : Magnum is still going strong Sager 12-12-2006, 10:30 AM Well dish is up to their tricks again, but so far the Maggy has not flinched. GO MAGNUM GO! just-me 12-12-2006, 01:22 PM V138 rolling fine, both providers, V138 bin file. Autoroll and Auto transponder turned "ON". Nice work, coders! Synergizer 12-12-2006, 01:36 PM Still using 136 on dish, keeps going & going & going. . . puckhogjy 12-12-2006, 01:47 PM Is there anything we should worry about or is this just effecting plastic. Is there any need to unplug my machine. setwire 12-12-2006, 02:23 PM Is there anything we should worry about or is this just effecting plastic. Is there any need to unplug my machine. Well as posted above, no problems as yet. Latest ECM is affecting Some FTA receivers but can usually be bypassed by turning AutoTP and Autoroll functions off. My Magnum is just ticking along with autoTP and autoroll ON. DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 02:29 PM course I seem to remember a time not long ago when the magnum was the only one NOT working.. for more than a couple days too... ;) but good work getting this bin rolling good.. Sager 12-12-2006, 02:35 PM Is there anything we should worry about or is this just effecting plastic. Is there any need to unplug my machine. This emm it turns out was aimed at cards, primarily pengas blocker. I do find it odd it messed with the VS's, unless they were using his code. jd1122 12-12-2006, 02:43 PM sager i was going to post on how much i like the magnum that i just got today, problem is the one they sent me came in a used box and does not even turn on, i am f##cking pissed, i never had a problem like this with viewsat or ariza, and btw my ultra is running flawless, since you are there rep maybe you can look into why simplyfta sold me the box and then said they were out of stock and sent one from superfta, the fuc#king box they sent it in was old and had magic marker writing all over it, it even had 10/06 on the box, to say that i am pissed is a understatement, my first experience with the magnum has sucked, viewsat never did me wrong, i hope i can get a replacement or my money back as soon as possible, i would tell other members here to check the box your magnum comes in and make sure the motherf##cker is new and not used, magnum number 1 my ass Raider51 12-12-2006, 02:57 PM No problems with the Magnum here! Working good! jd, That sucks and hopefully it is taken care of like real quick. Not a good way to start an experience that should have been a good one. jd1122 12-12-2006, 03:03 PM raider if i could even turn on this magnum i would let you know if it works, at least my ultra has no problems btw see my avatar thats how i am looking at the magnum in front of me right now Randolf 12-12-2006, 03:09 PM raider if i could even turn on this magnum i would let you know if it works, at least my ultra has no problems btw see my avatar thats how i am looking at the magnum in front of me right now where did you buy your box??? Dead box! thats not cool at all! setwire 12-12-2006, 03:17 PM sager i was going to post on how much i like the magnum that i just got today, problem is the one they sent me came in a used box and does not even turn on, i am f##cking pissed, i never had a problem like this with viewsat or ariza, and btw my ultra is running flawless, since you are there rep maybe you can look into why simplyfta sold me the box and then said they were out of stock and sent one from superfta, the fuc#king box they sent it in was old and had magic marker writing all over it, it even had 10/06 on the box, to say that i am pissed is a understatement, my first experience with the magnum has sucked, viewsat never did me wrong, i hope i can get a replacement or my money back as soon as possible, i would tell other members here to check the box your magnum comes in and make sure the motherf##cker is new and not used, magnum number 1 my ass jd Who is they? From whom did you buy this dead Magnum box from? Ebay? Magnum Dealer? Raider51 12-12-2006, 03:28 PM jd, I sure as Hell wouldn't want to see that staring at me! Seriosly though that is just wrong and I hope it does get resolved. setwire, It was from simplyfta through superfta, because simplyfta was out of stock. This is not good, because they are both good dealers. jd1122 12-12-2006, 03:37 PM raiders right it was from simplyfta and they were out of stock, they sent me a e-mail and said one of there us partner companys would send one, i did not know where it was comeing from until i got a e-mail and tracking no. from superfta the same day it arrived, the orignal shipper was crossed off and someone wrote simplyfta with a marker on the box, as soon as the magnum was plugged in and the power button on the back of the receiver was flipped on , nothing, no led lights dead on arrival, what really pissed me off was the old box it was sent in, i had a bad feeling as soon as i saw the box and i was right, i hope i can get this straightened out asap because i really want to try a magnum, i am sure as soon as i can get a WORKING MAGNUM i will be happy with it jd1122 12-12-2006, 04:16 PM here is a c/p that was just sent to me This unit was sent by our affiliate in the United States as we are currently sold out of the units. Please excuse the condition in which it arrived. I will personally do my best to straighten this out immediately. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I will keep you informed of the status. Regards, Michael | Sales Representative Simply FTA jd1122 12-12-2006, 04:42 PM I understand your concern in this matter and indeed there is word of defective power sources in certain units. However, there is not much we can do to replace them as our distributors cannot replace them all at once. This unit came from a batch only a week old and so it is impossible for us to do much about it. However, I’ve spoken to our affiliate in the states and he has assured me that this unit was never used. It was shipped out some time ago to a Canadian customer but never made it through customs. This is why there are marks on the box itself. The unit inside is however completely new and unused. To resolve the situation however, we’ve agreed to pay for the shipping required to replace your unit from ExtremeView. I will be sending you a PDF with a prepaid shipping label from DHL addressed to ExtremeView in Florida. They will replace your unit free of charge according to their warranty. All you need to do then is either drop off the package with DHL or contact DHL for a pickup. We hope that this is a satisfactory solution to this problem. Regards, Michael | Sales Representative Simply FTA new reply just received my point is if it is just a week old why is there a marker date of 10/06 marked on the used box that i received Sager 12-12-2006, 06:10 PM All if this has been brought to our attention, and we are looking into this. I have spoken with jb1122 in person, and are working to resolve this issue as soon as possible. the dark one 12-12-2006, 06:34 PM It sucks about your dead Magnum but this company has only shown it's dedication to it's end users and from testimonals that they are taking care of units that are defective. They are here to stay. All units have bugs when first launching... I belelive they have done a great job in supporting us. Look at viewsat & SonicView. They are down right now... MAGNUM UP!!!! I am one happy customer and you will be soon. Do not pass judgement on the MAGNUM PRODUCT... THEY STAY BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT!!! NO ONE ELSE DOES!!! Also it looks like you are being taken care of. DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 06:57 PM viewsat and sonicview are NOT down right now.. they are running fine with autoroll and autotp turned off.. just like the last time that MAGNUM was DOWN while everyone else was UP.. let's stick with facts,, not fantasy. jd. I'm sure that you'll be please with the way you'll be taken care of... I understand that Magnum has great service.. as well as a fine product.. the dark one 12-12-2006, 07:12 PM FACTS my Magnum still ROLLING and not missing a beat... SInce the addition of TEAM RELIABLE & MAGNM TEAM - They have been tops... That is a FACT... Their goal of No down time is almost a dream but they have been very good so far and they are dedicated... FACT DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 07:24 PM never said they weren't good.. it's just the fanboys I have a problem with... In fact,, if you look at ANY of my posts,, you'll find that I haven't bashed in any way shape or form, the Magnum,, (something of which the fanboys cannot say of other ird's, is it?)... FACT,,, when DN changed the B1 table a week or so ago,, FACT Magnum did not A/R,,although even pansat and coolsat and the clones did... FACT bin 137 didn't cut it,, FACT, most magnum users went BACK to bin 136, because it did autoroll with DN,, but not the other provider.. FACT.. it took more than one day (3 I think) before a working bin (138) was released,, FACT,, although some of could have trashed Magnum as "not working",, we didn't,, why?? because we realize chit happens in this game,, so.,. is magnum good?? sure is magnum support good?? yup, better than most does magnum stand behind their product,,, appears so.. is the magnum better than sliced bread?? nah,, but it's riding the wave right now. so... please,, if you guys can't talk up the magnum WITHOUT talking down the other units,,, then there must be something you're worried about,, because everyone knows that lack of confidence is the main reason to build yourself up at the expense of someone else.. not specific fact,, but solid conjecture.. I think magnums biggest mistake so far has been in product promotion,, the tdg'esque style is old and weary.. and very very suspect.. DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 07:28 PM oh,,, btw... the problem is not keys rolling... cause,, the keys haven't changed (yet),, Sager 12-12-2006, 07:39 PM oh,,, btw... the problem is not keys rolling... cause,, the keys haven't changed (yet),, The emm attacked pengas blocker, which apparently vs was using or had something very close to. Turning off autoroll seems to calm it down, this is why people think its an autoroll issue, I think this emm is out of the stream right now, so it can be turned back on on the vs. Also, there never was a released 137 bin for magnum, it went from 136 to 138 :) DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 07:47 PM I agree Sager,,, I can't say if it's out of the stream yet, I've read that some say it is, others not.. go figure ... and it's true, when DN rolls the keys,, xtreme owners will be manually putting in keys,, and it does seem strange that the vs was affected, but most others were not... but I'm sure they'll get it taken care of in a timelly manner, just like your crew does.. and I stand corrected on the 137 bin, but you have to admit, there was a time lag before the current fix was released,..while others were still running fine Sager 12-12-2006, 07:58 PM I agree Sager,,, I can't say if it's out of the stream yet, I've read that some say it is, others not.. go figure ... and it's true, when DN rolls the keys,, xtreme owners will be manually putting in keys,, and it does seem strange that the vs was affected, but most others were not... but I'm sure they'll get it taken care of in a timelly manner, just like your crew does.. and I stand corrected on the 137 bin, but you have to admit, there was a time lag before the current fix was released,..while others were still running fine It may not be out of the stream but it is not active at the moment. It is by no means safe to put a card back in yet, they can and probably will activate it several more times. The magnum coding team, was new to this job when all this autoroll stuff hit the fan. And yes it took a while to get it rolling (pun intended). But now these guys are crackjack on this unit, and I personally feel confident they are ready to kick anything that comes, ass. Yes it is my opinion,,(and i am right) heheh DoctorNik 12-12-2006, 08:06 PM +1 Sager! LOL jd1122 12-12-2006, 08:32 PM doc i gotta say that magnum came thru, sager contacted the head man at magnum and i just got off of the phone with him, he will send me a new unit tommorow, i talked to sager by phone earlier and he arranged the phone call i just had, i will always run viewsats and look forward to trying a magnum, i appreciate your help in this sager and glad you are a rep here just don't bash other units and all will be good Sager 12-12-2006, 09:40 PM doc i gotta say that magnum came thru, sager contacted the head man at magnum and i just got off of the phone with him, he will send me a new unit tommorow, i talked to sager by phone earlier and he arranged the phone call i just had, i will always run viewsats and look forward to trying a magnum, i appreciate your help in this sager and glad you are a rep here just don't bash other units and all will be good Any time man,, it is what I am here for,, to help. As for the bashing thing,, I try to present the facts, some will see that as bashing, some won't. I try to keep it as honest as possible :) Egyptian Mafia 12-12-2006, 10:08 PM Any time man,, it is what I am here for,, to help. As for the bashing thing,, I try to present the facts, some will see that as bashing, some won't. I try to keep it as honest as possible :) so how much is Magnum paying you, or are you one of the founders! just-me 12-13-2006, 04:02 AM so how much is Magnum paying you, or are you one of the founders! sheesh! some folks are just never happy! :beer: thank you for contributing, Egyptian Mafia! Very informative post!!! one2one 12-13-2006, 05:35 AM Remember when VS first came out? How the Reps keep asserting that it had a "Real Blind Scan" feature? But it didn't. Then soon it was corrected, but it wasn't. All the way to the new model VS with Real Blind Scan, but again, it didn't have it. I lost interest after that. Today, I don't know if it really has a working Blind Scan, or not. This was also seen by some as bashing. But it wasn't, just an attempt to state the facts for those of us that refuse to buy an FTA receiver without a real working blind scan feature. This was more than the meaningless vapor of hype, or bashing. Yet some will see this as bashing. And I have a Fortec Classic NA that is a real dud unless you use it for real FTA. A great blind scan feature but support is at the bottom of the pit. I think it's a good thing for members to know other users opinions of the many boxes...and reason for the opinion. There is no Holy Grail for FTA receivers. What's up today may be down tomorrow. But up or down, the experience remains. As for the Magnum, there have been some problems, but I haven't seen any outright lies posted by the Reps...yet. 1.) Magnum has a great Blind Scan feature. 2.) Magnum has the great Card Aux feature, which is why I purchased it. I really like the looks of the EPG, but other opinions may vary here. Compared to my bug ridden original Buzz, the Magnum is practically bug free. Very few reboots required. But #1 and #2 was the meat for me. My only fear regarding the Magnum is that some boxes seem to go dead for no apparent reasons, if the posters are truthful. The support of replacement units seems to be good now, but the future is long. Sager 12-13-2006, 08:26 AM so how much is Magnum paying you, or are you one of the founders! How much is your job paying you ? I am their rep, I have never hidden that, I am not a founder. I do the same type job blacklist does, have you asked him how much he gets paid lately? Why would you care what I get paid? I find that a very strange question.... Raider51 12-13-2006, 08:31 AM Sager, Maybe! He wants your job! :lol: That's a stand up thing you did for jd! :beer: I hope all customers are given the same consideration. DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 09:02 AM I do the same type job blacklist does, remember,, you said it,, not me!! (sorry, couldn't resist) Egyptian Mafia 12-13-2006, 09:18 AM The funny thing...Ftazone in Markham are dying to sell a unit....but everytime someone goes in there they always buy Viewsat....Everytime I go in to buy a viewsat, the guy keep on begging ppl to buy the magnum and every time the buyers shoot him down!!!! go there...and u will see by urself... also they are called electronicsandmore! Sager 12-13-2006, 09:27 AM The funny thing...Ftazone in Markham are dying to sell a unit....but everytime someone goes in there they always buy Viewsat....Everytime I go in to buy a viewsat, the guy keep on begging ppl to buy the magnum and every time the buyers shoot him down!!!! go there...and u will see by urself... also they are called electronicsandmore! Well each dealer has their own problems. There tons of dealers out there who cannot keep them in stock, as stated in this thread before. Do you have a magnum yet? I have found most people who have both, like the magnum better overall, including myself. This is not to say all do, but the majority do. I have a plat, extreme and pvr from vs, all good units. The magnum blows them out of the water in my opinion. I do not have an ultra, but in my talks with jd1122 he says its working better than before, perhaps I will get one eventually for testing.. Grüner Elefant 12-13-2006, 09:38 AM raiders right it was from simplyfta and they were out of stock, they sent me a e-mail and said one of there us partner companys would send one, i did not know where it was comeing from until i got a e-mail and tracking no. from superfta the same day it arrived, the orignal shipper was crossed off and someone wrote simplyfta with a marker on the box, as soon as the magnum was plugged in and the power button on the back of the receiver was flipped on , nothing, no led lights dead on arrival, what really pissed me off was the old box it was sent in, i had a bad feeling as soon as i saw the box and i was right, i hope i can get this straightened out asap because i really want to try a magnum, i am sure as soon as i can get a WORKING MAGNUM i will be happy with it I don't see these dealers on list of Authorized Dealers! If you have purchased from NOT authorized dealer, please do not blame this on ExtremeView Magnum XV3300! Grüner Elefant 12-13-2006, 09:43 AM viewsat and sonicview are NOT down right now.. they are running fine with autoroll and autotp turned off.. just like the last time that MAGNUM was DOWN while everyone else was UP.. let's stick with facts,, not fantasy. jd. I'm sure that you'll be please with the way you'll be taken care of... I understand that Magnum has great service.. as well as a fine product.. When was it that MAGNUM (all Magnums that is), was down and EVERYONE ELSE was UP ??? DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 10:00 AM When was it that MAGNUM (all Magnums that is), was down and EVERYONE ELSE was UP ??? right before the release of the last bin... look it up... it wasn't autorolin Egyptian Mafia 12-13-2006, 11:17 AM Well each dealer has their own problems. There tons of dealers out there who cannot keep them in stock, as stated in this thread before. Do you have a magnum yet? I have found most people who have both, like the magnum better overall, including myself. This is not to say all do, but the majority do. I have a plat, extreme and pvr from vs, all good units. The magnum blows them out of the water in my opinion.I do not have an ultra, but in my talks with jd1122 he says its working better than before, perhaps I will get one eventually for testing.. based on what????? you guys have been in business less than a year...VS has been here for quiet a while...you dont have the amount of money or resources VS has....you dont have the same coders that VS has...they released the new bin less than 24h!!!! can magnum do that...HELL NO!!!! VS had the fix b4 you and magnums couldnt roll!!!! so stop with your BS!!!! Sager 12-13-2006, 11:49 AM based on what????? you guys have been in business less than a year...VS has been here for quiet a while...you dont have the amount of money or resources VS has....you dont have the same coders that VS has...they released the new bin less than 24h!!!! can magnum do that...HELL NO!!!! VS had the fix b4 you and magnums couldnt roll!!!! so stop with your BS!!!! I say that because I have them side by side, here in my living room. And I said it is my opinion, am I not allowed that? The magnum is , overall a better box, IN MY OPINION, and in the opinion of many others I know..... You don't know what our resources are, how could you? Yes Magnum can and has had releases in less time than 24 hours after a problem came forth. We like to test bins for a while, before releasing them, but sometimes that is not possible, it all depends on the urgency of the problem. Magnum has not been completely out since I came on board a couple months ago. Sure we all had our AR problems.. Magnum had the working AR fixes faster than VS, in this last round of AR battles. Can we please have a discussion on this, without resorting to this nastyness? MightyFinn 12-13-2006, 11:51 AM I have been testing the Extreme Magnum since April of this year. I have not had any issues with my two Magnums that I own. The support has always been there for me and I have been a very satisfied customer.K eep her rolling along Team Magnum and Team Reliable. Thanks for steering me towards a very fine product Excaliber! DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 11:56 AM I see no reason for any nastyness.. it's true Magnum hasn't been 'down' for quite awhile (besided the a/r stuff), and I've read varying opinions on magnum vs others,, (best I can see,, split about 50/50, depending which forum you read at).. Support is the key, bells and whistles are nice, but without the 3rd part software support,, it's just a box like everyone elses (insert brand name here) is no better than (insert brand name here) without support,, and the support makes any one box only marginally better for a short period of time.. Egyptian, please keep your cool, I've seen no BS,, (maybe some embellishment of the FACTS),, and everything else has calmed down.... I've said it before,, I hit all boxes with the same bat, I have no agenda, have no axe to grind etc.. can you say the same thing?? I believe Sager is trying his best to promote the manu he represents,, I don't happen to cotton to the methods as such, but,, that's me and "my opinion" (btw.. I'm right LOL) Egyptian Mafia 12-13-2006, 12:22 PM I see no reason for any nastyness.. it's true Magnum hasn't been 'down' for quite awhile (besided the a/r stuff), and I've read varying opinions on magnum vs others,, (best I can see,, split about 50/50, depending which forum you read at).. Support is the key, bells and whistles are nice, but without the 3rd part software support,, it's just a box like everyone elses (insert brand name here) is no better than (insert brand name here) without support,, and the support makes any one box only marginally better for a short period of time.. Egyptian, please keep your cool, I've seen no BS,, (maybe some embellishment of the FACTS),, and everything else has calmed down.... I've said it before,, I hit all boxes with the same bat, I have no agenda, have no axe to grind etc.. can you say the same thing?? I believe Sager is trying his best to promote the manu he represents,, I don't happen to cotton to the methods as such, but,, that's me and "my opinion" (btw.. I'm right LOL) yea...but you dont see a VS rep on here always talking about VS... anyways....no matter what sager says about magnum or VS....everyone in the scene knows who is #1 and who is the best!!!! and for sure it aint magnum!!! Raider51 12-13-2006, 12:58 PM Doctor, Well said! The problem here and I'm going to be blunt! Everytime the magnum stays up when there is a hash or AR issue, Immediately the chest thumping starts! The next thing you see is folks from FWFTA hoping on the bandwagon. That's not cool and it obviously offends others. Nothing was learned from previous threads and it was quite an embarrassment at the time. How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. I'm going to say it again, the Magnum is one fantastic unit with fantastic support, but it's going to have it's ups and downs just like any other box. Hell! If it's coders jumped ship tomorrow, what would you have then? I'll tell you It's called a Orasat! :lol: (I just had to get that blow in) Egyptian, You are definately entitled to your opinion. No one can take that from you! I have them both and believe me, I'm a strong supporter of both of them. If you get a chance you should check the Magnum out. If you overlook the hype you will find that it is a very good unit. DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 01:00 PM yea...but you dont see a VS rep on here always talking about VS... no.. but if he/she was to come here,, he/she would be more than welcome, and I would probably give him/her as hard a time as I give Sager! ;) Egyptian Mafia 12-13-2006, 01:29 PM Doctor, Well said! The problem here and I'm going to be blunt! Everytime the magnum stays up when there is a hash or AR issue, Immediately the chest thumping starts! The next thing you see is folks from FWFTA hoping on the bandwagon. That's not cool and it obviously offends others. Nothing was learned from previous threads and it was quite an embarrassment at the time. How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. I'm going to say it again, the Magnum is one fantastic unit with fantastic support, but it's going to have it's ups and downs just like any other box. Hell! If it's coders jumped ship tomorrow, what would you have then? I'll tell you It's called a Orasat! :lol: (I just had to get that blow in) Egyptian, You are definately entitled to your opinion. No one can take that from you! I have them both and believe me, I'm a strong supporter of both of them. If you get a chance you should check the Magnum out. If you overlook the hype you will find that it is a very good unit. not anytime soon...and if I did...I would either get it for free or just pay $1 for it! DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 02:09 PM if I was into testing, I probably would check it out.. btw.. how does it handle true fta?? is there HH motor support in the factory bin? I might get into true fta sometime,, I know the fortec has good HH support, and coolsat,,, not sure about viewsat or magnumm that's be interesting to learn,,, maybe there's my next project,, anyone willing to 'donate' an ird for the cause??? LOL Sager 12-13-2006, 02:13 PM Doctor, Well said! The problem here and I'm going to be blunt! Everytime the magnum stays up when there is a hash or AR issue, Immediately the chest thumping starts! The next thing you see is folks from FWFTA hoping on the bandwagon. That's not cool and it obviously offends others. Nothing was learned from previous threads and it was quite an embarrassment at the time. How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. I'm going to say it again, the Magnum is one fantastic unit with fantastic support, but it's going to have it's ups and downs just like any other box. Hell! If it's coders jumped ship tomorrow, what would you have then? I'll tell you It's called a Orasat! :lol: (I just had to get that blow in) Egyptian, You are definately entitled to your opinion. No one can take that from you! I have them both and believe me, I'm a strong supporter of both of them. If you get a chance you should check the Magnum out. If you overlook the hype you will find that it is a very good unit. It is not chest thumping at all... It is information for those, who may be ready to place an order, they need reassurances And if someone said vs was up and magnum was down, I would say, yes that is correct, we are working on a solution, or whatever. If they are up and we are down, IT IS A FACT, NOT A BASH! It works the same both ways, what I find ridiculous, is when something like that is posted, as a fact, like on hash, and the post is deleted. Any time vs is mentioned in the magnum thread, be it by me or anyone else at that site, TDG sees to it that the post is deleted. He doesn't allow the fair exchange of thoughts. He messaged me last night to tell me this. He sees it as bashes, I see it as the statement of current facts, nothing more , nothing less. Anyway.. I hope you can understand where I am coming from :) DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 02:29 PM well sometimes, your posts, and some of your supporters come off as bashing to the casual readers. I guess your enthusiasm gets in the way. You have to admit, with people here and other forums saying this (including mods that have warned you not to bash other units) there must be something to it ... no? What raider is speaking about is , well,, look at the two threads we've butted heads in,, the 'extreme team yadda yadda.. of which, 1 week later,, the bin was having problems.. and ummm,, nothing was said really, especially in that thread... you posted a back patting chest beating c&p , remember? and now this thread,,, sure you were just stating facts but,, take alook at your post, and just me's post,, then look at setwire's,,, see the difference between chest thumping hype,, and facts? setwire gave unemotional, straight up facts,, his was working with the stuff on,, other fta irds' were having trouble. as far as TDG goes,, well you should probably know better,, Hash is not the unbiased site they try to portray themselves to be. I've had stuff deleted from that site, just gotta live with it.. it's his site (yes HIS), so he can do what he wants with it I guess.. Do I know where you're coming from,, sure,, and as long as you thump and pat,, I'll be there too... ;) mind you it's not personal.. I just got nuthin else to do LOL one2one 12-13-2006, 02:44 PM If you get a chance you should check the Magnum out. If you overlook the hype you will find that it is a very good unit. not anytime soon...and if I did...I would either get it for free or just pay $1 for it! Sounds like a not so hidden agenda somewhere in those lines. I have my Fortec running my SG2100 motor right now because that's about all it's good for. And it does a good job at that. The user choice of freq steps in Blind Scanning is cool. But the Magnum also has the same feature and performs the job just as good or better on the two fixed dishes connected to it...IA 7 and G10. Because of the trouble of setting up (Messing up) and scanning with a motor I haven't tried running my SG2100 with it. But would be really surprised if it didn't do just fine as I've read many posts from other members regarding this. My CW600S doesn't have real Blind Scan but My Fortec does, so it takes two boxes to do one good job here. I think the Magnum would be a great FTA box for Blind Scanning and motor control. If anyone thinks different I expect it won't go unchallenged very long. But like I've said, I know it Blind Scans good and has "Real Blind Scan" (Not like the CW600S). And have read posts of people using it with motor and no complaints so far. I mean, this DN stuff is good, but I gotta have Real FTA capabilities for backup out here on the frontier. jd1122 12-13-2006, 02:58 PM sager i just got a tracking no, and i sent you pictures of the bad one that was sent, when i get the next magnum it may turn out to be the best fta receiver i have,or it may not, i will give my opinion when i get it, one thing i do know is that i like viewsat and my ultra never went down yesterday even though my viewsat extreme did, if it turns out the magnum is the best then i will look to help others who are running a magnum in anyway i can , just as i do with viewsat extreme and ultra, i also help with all models of ariza, the one thing you will never see me do is bash any other receiver [except unisat:lol: ]my point here is that it is okay to push for sales of the magnum[you being there rep] but not by degradeing other fta receivers, every box has been down at different times and it just makes sense to have different brands [if you can afford to], most members here run different boxes and spend more time here helping other members out then watching tv, i hope to be able to see for myself soon if the magnum is as good as most say, and thanks again for your help la fuse 12-13-2006, 03:19 PM sorry but I newbie I recently received my xv was working fine till a couple days ago when the complete guide went to, NOINFO can this be fixed. HELP:unsure: jd1122 12-13-2006, 03:23 PM open guide and hit find, wait until it populates, i am not running a magnum yet but this is what i read do this for each sat you are on, it will go to a default channel when it populates the guide Sager 12-13-2006, 03:45 PM if I was into testing, I probably would check it out.. btw.. how does it handle true fta?? is there HH motor support in the factory bin? I might get into true fta sometime,, I know the fortec has good HH support, and coolsat,,, not sure about viewsat or magnumm that's be interesting to learn,,, maybe there's my next project,, anyone willing to 'donate' an ird for the cause??? LOL Yes it does true fta, and had full diseq 1 - 2 support, so motor support of course is included in the factory bins :) Viewsat I am sorry to say has HORRID motor support,, after setting it all up, scanning sats all, ya change from 120 to 121, (8,.10 to 7) it will not move the dish to the sat. I found this out only after one of my 3500sd customers decided to upgrade to a viewsat,, he had that and a superdish 121, the motor didnt work, and when I tried to scan sats with the superdish,,,,, it always lost signal during the scans. I could not believe it! Sager 12-13-2006, 03:47 PM sorry but I newbie I recently received my xv was working fine till a couple days ago when the complete guide went to, NOINFO can this be fixed. HELP:unsure: Yes what jd said was true, but very boring :) There is a second way,and my favorite, is when you leave the house or go to sleep, hit the power off with the remote, when the receiver is tuned to an echo 7 sat channel. The unit will download the full 7 day guide while you are our or sleeping :) one2one 12-13-2006, 04:29 PM sorry but I newbie I recently received my xv was working fine till a couple days ago when the complete guide went to, NOINFO can this be fixed. HELP:unsure: Every so often this also happens on my Magnum and pressing the find button doesn't help. Happy to say that turning the box off using the rear switch, and back on, seems to always fix it and the EPG then populates as usual. setwire 12-13-2006, 05:15 PM Doctor, Well said! The problem here and I'm going to be blunt! Everytime the magnum stays up when there is a hash or AR issue, Immediately the chest thumping starts! The next thing you see is folks from FWFTA hoping on the bandwagon. That's not cool and it obviously offends others. Nothing was learned from previous threads and it was quite an embarrassment at the time. How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. I'm going to say it again, the Magnum is one fantastic unit with fantastic support, but it's going to have it's ups and downs just like any other box. Hell! If it's coders jumped ship tomorrow, what would you have then? I'll tell you It's called a Orasat! :lol: (I just had to get that blow in) Egyptian, You are definately entitled to your opinion. No one can take that from you! I have them both and believe me, I'm a strong supporter of both of them. If you get a chance you should check the Magnum out. If you overlook the hype you will find that it is a very good unit. Raider Truer words have never been said "How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. When I 1st received my Magnum and was steered to the FWFTA site as being THE SITE for Magnum support, I mentioned in one of my 1st posts there a reference to Viewsat Extreme. I was banned for 3 days just for the reference to Viewsat receivers. Was told the the FWFTA site was a site exclusive to Extremeview Magnum receivers. Your comment is DEAD ON. fta1006 12-13-2006, 06:02 PM The funny thing...Ftazone in Markham are dying to sell a unit....but everytime someone goes in there they always buy Viewsat....Everytime I go in to buy a viewsat, the guy keep on begging ppl to buy the magnum and every time the buyers shoot him down!!!! go there...and u will see by urself... also they are called electronicsandmore! number 1,you sound like a lonely individual. number 2, the number one rule is do not mention a company or website name! you see, this just lets everyone know that you are a rival dealer trying to degrade another dealer.i have dealt with ftazone for over a year and i hate to burst your bubble but they have always been more than fair with me.also from what i can tell they are an authorized extremeview dealer so why wouldnt they push the magnum.they are also an authorized coolsat,captive works and sonicview dealer and they push those toooo.that is what authorized dealers do ,they push a product.the more products they are authorized for,the more choice they give the consumer.business 101. you ,my friend are 100% wrong.first off they are not in markham and second you must be a viewsat dealer.maybe you just dont get enough business.further more my friend if you only knew how many units they actually sell you wouldnt be saying what you said.you want to start something,or shit,do it somewhere else!!!!!!!!. Grüner Elefant 12-13-2006, 08:30 PM right before the release of the last bin... look it up... it wasn't autorolin Mine was ALL the time - I only watch DN. DoctorNik 12-13-2006, 08:53 PM ahhh.== well then you may have missed the down time then.. since the DN wasn't really affected... Sager,, Yes, I heard about the VS not working well, or virtually not at all for FTA... hopefully they can get it corrected... (not everyone gets FTA ird's for DN) thanks for the info with the magnum,, it might be worth while looking into,,, (of course, my offer of accepting an ird to 'test' the viability still stands LOL) Grüner Elefant 12-13-2006, 08:59 PM Raider Truer words have never been said "How would this same tactic be received at FWFTA if Magnum was down and VS or for that matter any other box was up and everyone went there thumping their chests. Just step back and look at it from the other side. When I 1st received my Magnum and was steered to the FWFTA site as being THE SITE for Magnum support, I mentioned in one of my 1st posts there a reference to Viewsat Extreme. I was banned for 3 days just for the reference to Viewsat receivers. Was told the the FWFTA site was a site exclusive to Extremeview Magnum receivers. Your comment is DEAD ON. FwFTA is a site exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum XV3300 that is correct, as far as I can see you were banned for ONE day only for being "smart" with a site administrator, even after having been given a warning. I see no mention of ViewSat there at all. Anyway as I said above that site is Exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum, so talk about anything else does not belong there. Grüner Elefant 12-13-2006, 09:04 PM ahhh.== well then you may have missed the down time then.. since the DN wasn't really affected... Sager,, Yes, I heard about the VS not working well, or virtually not at all for FTA... hopefully they can get it corrected... (not everyone gets FTA ird's for DN) thanks for the info with the magnum,, it might be worth while looking into,,, (of course, my offer of accepting an ird to 'test' the viability still stands LOL) There was no down time, there was just "manual key entering" for those wanting to watch BEV. That's not the same as downtime -no-one was down! setwire 12-14-2006, 04:18 AM FwFTA is a site exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum XV3300 that is correct, as far as I can see you were banned for ONE day only for being "smart" with a site administrator, even after having been given a warning. I see no mention of ViewSat there at all. Anyway as I said above that site is Exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum, so talk about anything else does not belong there. Beg to differ. No warning. If you consider asking a questions as be "smart" with an administrator then your administrators perhaps need lessons in tolerance or some lessons on how to administer a DSS testing forum.. Criticisim can be constructive for all. as can be seen on this site. Something that perhaps should be practised on the Magnum site. I posted nothing on the Magnum site that would get me banned on any of the other sites I frequent, you are not dealing with some newbie here. Check my post count and status here and elsewhere. I have been "testing" and posting since the early DTV H card days, about 8 years now and have been a moderator on a few sites earlier on . just-me 12-14-2006, 05:25 AM not anytime soon...and if I did...I would either get it for free or just pay $1 for it! excellent! stay in your beloved VS forum, then, until you get a Magnum... there was mention of "Chest thumping" by Magnum reps somewhere in this thead. it's been duly noted, HOWEVER, you can go to ANY Pansat forum on ANY site, and you will see Chest thumping" for the Pansat. Same goes for CaptiveWorks, Viewsat, etc., etc... this is fact. peace, out. just-me 12-14-2006, 05:30 AM Beg to differ. No warning. If you consider asking a questions as be "smart" with an administrator then your administrators perhaps need lessons in tolerance or some lessons on how to administer a DSS testing forum.. Criticisim can be constructive for all. as can be seen on this site. Something that perhaps should be practised on the Magnum site. I posted nothing on the Magnum site that would get me banned on any of the other sites I frequent, you are not dealing with some newbie here. Check my post count and status here and elsewhere. I have been "testing" and posting since the early DTV H card days, about 8 years now and have been a moderator on a few sites earlier on . if you got banned without warning, we'll check into it setwire. I see your posts on all of the major forums and it's obvious you know how to carry yourself. thanks for letting us know about that. Raider51 12-14-2006, 05:40 AM just-me, You are right about the chest thumping and it does go on everywhere. However when you openly do it when someone is down, you leave yourself open to these types of posts. Let's compare it to taunting in the NFL and that garnishes you a penalty! Sort of a weird comparsion but in my opinion it fits. All I'm trying to get through to everyone is that a certain amount of People are being turned off by these tactics. setwire, You don't have to defend yourself. Your reputation is well known and appreciated. just-me 12-14-2006, 06:29 AM just-me, You are right about the chest thumping and it does go on everywhere. However when you openly do it when someone is down, you leave yourself open to these types of posts.... All I'm trying to get through to everyone is that a certain amount of People are being turned off by these tactics. covering many boards for tech support stuff myself, you'd be amazed that when the Magnum is having issues how many hijacks we get in threads from "chest thumpers"... do we like it, heck no, we're genuinely striving to get issues resolved. it happens all the time, but we just carry on... Randolf 12-14-2006, 09:31 AM Only been on the FTA scene for 3 months now, and I've done alot of reading and traveling around on these sites and my experience has been that chest thumping is indeed apparent everywhere and not just specifically in the Fta scene, this shit happens everywhere, nature of the beast! It's true that I'm Magnum biased, do to the fact that its my first and only box, anyone who has seen me around knows this, I don't agree with box pushing, but I do however agree with box following and for me, for now I have made a base with the EV Magnum, this being the foundation for my learning and testing experience, I don't buy hype, I read,read,read till my eyes bleed than make my purchases based on what information I have gathered! I say ignore the alpha-male ego "chest thumping" and base your opinion on the facts! DoctorNik 12-14-2006, 11:36 AM just me.. yes,, I've been told that apparently magnum gets hit pretty hard elsewhere..and such things go unchecked.. but.. we're not 'elsewhere' we're here,, and we don't cotton to chest thumpin if you want to do it elsewhere,, go ahead,, just don't do it here.. I'll call ya on it (and any other rep for any other manu) everytime I see it.. want to get me off your back,, ?? easy,, don't chest thump/back pat here.. DoctorNik 12-14-2006, 11:37 AM Only been on the FTA scene for 3 months now, and I've done alot of reading and traveling around on these sites and my experience has been that chest thumping is indeed apparent everywhere and not just specifically in the Fta scene, this shit happens everywhere, nature of the beast! It's true that I'm Magnum biased, do to the fact that its my first and only box, anyone who has seen me around knows this, I don't agree with box pushing, but I do however agree with box following and for me, for now I have made a base with the EV Magnum, this being the foundation for my learning and testing experience, I don't buy hype, I read,read,read till my eyes bleed than make my purchases based on what information I have gathered! I say ignore the alpha-male ego "chest thumping" and base your opinion on the facts! excellent post Randolf,, +1 FTA_mod 12-14-2006, 12:10 PM Crap! I had norrowed it down for the last few weeks after reading too many reviews to 2 boxes: Viewsat or Captivework, and now all of a sudden this magnum sound tooooo goooood also. now i need to make a decision fast, based on 2 option: price and support., so what you gus/gals think: either the VS, CW or MN? Thanks setwire 12-14-2006, 12:11 PM Only been on the FTA scene for 3 months now, and I've done alot of reading and traveling around on these sites and my experience has been that chest thumping is indeed apparent everywhere and not just specifically in the Fta scene, this shit happens everywhere, nature of the beast! It's true that I'm Magnum biased, do to the fact that its my first and only box, anyone who has seen me around knows this, I don't agree with box pushing, but I do however agree with box following and for me, for now I have made a base with the EV Magnum, this being the foundation for my learning and testing experience, I don't buy hype, I read,read,read till my eyes bleed than make my purchases based on what information I have gathered! I say ignore the alpha-male ego "chest thumping" and base your opinion on the facts! Yes truer words have not been said. It amazes me the number of posts here and elsewhere from people who just received their NEW Receiver and are posting for Information on how to get the unit up and running. Obviously many do No Research whatever and have no idea what they just purchased or how to make it work. just-me 12-14-2006, 03:13 PM just me.. yes,, I've been told that apparently magnum gets hit pretty hard elsewhere..and such things go unchecked.. but.. we're not 'elsewhere' we're here,, and we don't cotton to chest thumpin if you want to do it elsewhere,, go ahead,, just don't do it here.. I'll call ya on it (and any other rep for any other manu) everytime I see it.. want to get me off your back,, ?? easy,, don't chest thump/back pat here.. Understood, DoctorNik! You've been around a long time (no offense intended! :-) ) and for the most part you've been bang on with the info you've been posting for newbies and oldies (like me) as well... Please, DO shout out when you feel a Rep/Manu is going beyond the norm! As I've posted before..."let the music (and video) do the talking"! Thanks, Doc! jd1122 12-14-2006, 03:20 PM Yes truer words have not been said. It amazes me the number of posts here and elsewhere from people who just received their NEW Receiver and are posting for Information on how to get the unit up and running. Obviously many do No Research whatever and have no idea what they just purchased or how to make it work. i have done all the research and memorized all the info, i am waiting for my new magnum to get here, if you read earlier the first one that was deleivered was a doa:lol: if dhl deleivers this one in a box as banged up as the first one i will be hitting him in the head with both boxes:lol: raider i think you can vouche for the condition of the first one from the pics i sent you just-me 12-14-2006, 03:27 PM i have done all the research and memorized all the info, i am waiting for my new magnum to get here, if you read earlier the first one that was deleivered was a doa:lol: if dhl deleivers this one in a box as banged up as the first one i will be hitting him in the head with both boxes:lol: raider i think you can vouche for the condition of the first one from the pics i sent you hmmm.. makes one wonder. you should have recieved a new one to begin with... :unsure: jd1122 12-14-2006, 03:29 PM hmmm.. makes one wonder. you should have recieved a new one to begin with... :unsure: you got that right, tracking shows it will be here on the 18th just-me 12-14-2006, 03:39 PM you got that right, tracking shows it will be here on the 18th ok, please keep us posted, jd1122! Raider51 12-14-2006, 03:40 PM jd, Yes it was bad. Here is a couple of the images. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/Semi-Retired/JIM1005.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/Semi-Retired/JIM1008.jpg http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q17/Semi-Retired/JIM1002REPAIR.jpg jd1122 12-14-2006, 03:46 PM ok, please keep us posted, jd1122! i will keep you posted, i will either be very happy or you will read about me in the paper for assault charges:yes: , since we are talking about chest thumping i can honestley say that i never had a viewsat delivered in this condition, and i have purchased 16 of them[for myself and friends] Grüner Elefant 12-14-2006, 04:07 PM i will keep you posted, i will either be very happy or you will read about me in the paper for assault charges:yes: , since we are talking about chest thumping i can honestley say that i never had a viewsat delivered in this condition, and i have purchased 16 of them[for myself and friends] Don't think it's right for you to blame the people that sent the box about the condition you received it in - that you should blame on the carrier ! :grr: jd1122 12-14-2006, 04:13 PM FwFTA is a site exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum XV3300 that is correct, as far as I can see you were banned for ONE day only for being "smart" with a site administrator, even after having been given a warning. I see no mention of ViewSat there at all. Anyway as I said above that site is Exclusively for ExtremeView Magnum, so talk about anything else does not belong there. just to set you straight you are on dsstester where we are free to talk about any company we choose, if you want to be in a exclusive one sided club then why the hell are you here, setwire is a respected member here and on other sites and did not deserve any type of ban, this is not a narrowminded site and all opinions are welcome but not at the expense of degrading others, if you want my real opinion of magnum so far here it is, i had a box that was sent to me that looks like it went around the world and then sager stepped in to help and had the head man at magnum call me direct and said this would be straightened out , now i am waiting 5 days for a replacement, i could have just sent the other one back and had a new one sent in the same time, how is this the best support there is, i guess i am missing something[like the new magnum i paid for] jd1122 12-14-2006, 04:18 PM Don't think it's right for you to blame the people that sent the box about the condition you received it in - that you should blame on the carrier ! :grr: and i will show you the letters from the company saying the box was new and they were aware of some boxes haveing defective powerswitches, i have kept all messages from the dealer and magnum and if you want i will show you all the proof you want to shut you up:mad: , take a good look at the 10/06 date on the f@@cked up box Randolf 12-14-2006, 04:26 PM and i will show you the letters from the company saying the box was new and they were aware of some boxes haveing defective powerswitches, i have kept all messages from the dealer and magnum and if you want i will show you all the proof you want to shut you up:mad: , take a good look at the 10/06 date on the f@@cked up box Holy crap batman save the "going postal" for the postman,lol, I don't think any STB would work after receiving a beating like that from "THE Delivery Service" Raider51 12-14-2006, 04:31 PM I don't think they know what a shipping box looks like. Of the four that I got, not a one of them was in a shipping box. Just throw a stamp on it and ship it out. I'm amazed any of them make it undamaged. THAT'S A FACT!! and I do and will blame it on the shipper not the carrier. Now, start a poll and everyone tell us who had theirs in a shipping box and maybe we can find out what shipper is using them or not using them! That box jd received was shipped in that condition, look at the tape Grüner Elefant 12-14-2006, 04:31 PM just to set you straight you are on dsstester where we are free to talk about any company we choose, if you want to be in a exclusive one sided club then why the hell are you here, setwire is a respected member here and on other sites and did not deserve any type of ban, this is not a narrowminded site and all opinions are welcome but not at the expense of degrading others, if you want my real opinion of magnum so far here it is, i had a box that was sent to me that looks like it went around the world and then sager stepped in to help and had the head man at magnum call me direct and said this would be straightened out , now i am waiting 5 days for a replacement, i could have just sent the other one back and had a new one sent in the same time, how is this the best support there is, i guess i am missing something[like the new magnum i paid for] Cool down - I see you are on fire! Nobody said that we could not talk about any manufacturer here! If you go back and read, I wrote that FwFTA is exclusively for ExtremeView, not that its not allowed to mention anything else, it's just not discussed there (NOT meaning HERE)! Setwire said he was banned for 3 days without a warning for talking about ViewSat at FwFTA, .......... NOT TRUE, he was being "smart", was warned by admin., continued and was then given a 1 day vacation! No Big Deal - Get on with life and forget it, don't bring it up again and overdo it! Waiting 5 days for replacement just before Christmas is NO BIG DEAL! If the box came as per pictures, I would never have accepted it, or at least never have signed for it without noting on receipt that it was in damaged condition.:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :beer: jd1122 12-14-2006, 04:34 PM Holy crap batman save the "going postal" for the postman,lol, I don't think any STB would work after receiving a beating like that from "THE Delivery Service" i think you are missing the main point, the dealer sent me a reply and i got the same reply from magnum that some boxes were defective, they should have pulled every defective box and accounted for them, the reason i am really pissed is because i see magnum reps bragging about there boxes at every site and putting down other fta boxes, this is bs and should stop, i started out trying to get a magnum just to see how good they are and would post the truth about if they are better then viewsat extreme or ultra, but every site i visit has this same propeganda about the magnum is this or that, i have not even run one yet and already have a bitter experience from just ordering one jd1122 12-14-2006, 04:37 PM Cool down - I see you are on fire! Nobody said that we could not talk about any manufacturer here! If you go back and read, I wrote that FwFTA is exclusively for ExtremeView, not that its not allowed to mention anything else, it's just not discussed there (NOT meaning HERE)! Setwire said he was banned for 3 days without a warning for talking about ViewSat at FwFTA, .......... NOT TRUE, he was being "smart", was warned by admin., continued and was then given a 1 day vacation! No Big Deal - Get on with life and forget it, don't bring it up again and overdo it! Waiting 5 days for replacement just before Christmas is NO BIG DEAL! If the box came as per pictures, I would never have accepted it, or at least never have signed for it without noting on receipt that it was in damaged condition.:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :beer: i did not sign for it i was at work, the dhl guy just left it and you are really pissing me off, i am signing off for now because i am about to tell you what i really think about you and i might go overboard, Grüner Elefant 12-14-2006, 04:42 PM i did not sign for it i was at work, the dhl guy just left it and you are really pissing me off, i am signing off for now because i am about to tell you what i really think about you and i might go overboard, Guess I hit the nail on the head.:hat: just-me 12-14-2006, 04:44 PM i think you are missing the main point, the dealer sent me a reply ok, who did you get it from? and i got the same reply from magnum that some boxes were defective, they should have pulled every defective box and accounted for them ok, perhaps EV should have, but there are a of of channels (dealers, E-Bay, etc..) that STB's exchange hands thru before making it to end user. it MAY take some time before getting returned to EV, especially if purchased from a non-authorized disributor. the reason i am really pissed is because i see magnum reps bragging about there boxes at every site and putting down other fta boxes, this is bs and should stop this has been already addressed here at Tester... chuck 12-14-2006, 04:54 PM The chest thumping has been addressed and resolved here. No need to continue that conversation. The box talked about above received in that condition is a real bad example of poor shipping. I would say it is the shipping companys fault and also the senders. looking at the packaging...packing tape label etc it looks nothing like the way mine were sent to me from the dealer I purchased it from. This looks like it was sent from an individual not a dealer. Maybe the shipping company tried to tape it back up? I have no idea. If this was sent by an individual and extremeview is willing to replace it that shows great service and loyalty to the end user. To sum this up a new box is being sent out. When received if all is in order everything will be fine. Let it go for now and lets see how the service really is when the new box arrives. There is no need for anyone to argue about this and toss the blame around. EDIT: I went back and re-read the thread. You purchased from simply FTA the same place I purchased from. Wow...what a difference in the packaging!!!! When I bought mine they were also out of stock but mine came in a new box nicely packaged inside a Priority mail box. Remember though that your problem doesnt reflect on how good or bad the working of the receiver is :D Easy Goin' 12-14-2006, 05:03 PM Thanks for the sanity chuck Well said :) fta1006 12-14-2006, 08:49 PM i can honestly say that is the WORST example of shipping,i have ever seen!this came from a dealer?holy crap,please ,these guys are in business?wont be for long if they continue this. it would almost look like it was done on purpose to piss you off .in all honesty extremeview has no fault in this disaster.lol:no: ^_^ Grüner Elefant 12-14-2006, 09:23 PM i can honestly say that is the WORST example of shipping,i have ever seen!this came from a dealer?holy crap,please ,these guys are in business?wont be for long if they continue this. it would almost look like it was done on purpose to piss you off .in all honesty extremeview has no fault in this disaster.lol:no: ^_^ Maybe it came from some private person selling his used one on Ebay or whatever ????? Who knows ? One thing I do know DHL or PostOffice would not accept a package to be shipped in that condition !!!! Have Fun with a Magnum!:hat: fta1006 12-14-2006, 10:39 PM By looking at those pics Looking closely at the shipping label It looks like it came from Simplyfta.com I havent heard anything bad about them before, but damn is that a bad shipping box, you should never ship the receiver without at least having it in a different brown box, or a shipping pouch around it. Damn!!! one2one 12-15-2006, 05:46 AM One thing I do know DHL or PostOffice would not accept a package to be shipped in that condition !!!! I was just going to suggest the same. I've had the post office refuse to ship packages for me before and I had to box them up better. Chit happens though. Trucks even crash and stuff. Anyhow, as for the Magnum being better than such and such box, I would think that would depend on what you're looking for. AFTER VS had a cardless fix, and before anyone else did, I purchased my Magnum to use with the Card Aux Solution. Many, even Maggie users, claimed that wasn't a real fix and were dissatisfied. But I liked the Aux just fine baby. Still do, consider it a viable solution if needed. Very happy to have that option. And if you're buying a Magnum just to prove a point, then no doubt you will prove it. It takes some time to get used to. Seemed a little more difficult to setup for me...you may have to even change a provider ID to get going. I can't say completely, but this box is pretty much bug free. I still get some strange characters in the EPG description. Not too often, but now and again, I have to reboot to get the EPG going again. And I've read of a few other things that I've never experienced. If you want a box that would also be good for Real FTA and have a working backup plan in place if cardless fails, then you might like the Maggie. Other than that, who knows what flavor you might like best. And I hope we can just let the gorilla rest. All this gorilla chasing tires me out. Kinda like the buzz word "Free TV'er." It takes on a life of its own and generally just causes overreaction. be236 12-15-2006, 07:07 PM Ok, I'm gonna jump in here now... I've been using a Fortec Classic (newbie of a few months) and realized this is a weak box... So, I was gonna think of my next box be a VS Ultra.. Now I just read this forum about Magnum having card and cardless support... some questions... 1. Is a generic card included with the Magnum? If not, why not? and where would I go to get a card? 2. The built-in card reader.. is that a writer as well? 3. Is it easy to program? And how? I dont know much about how cards work, since I've been using a cardless system(the Fortec) all this time... setwire 12-15-2006, 09:05 PM Ok, I'm gonna jump in here now... I've been using a Fortec Classic (newbie of a few months) and realized this is a weak box... So, I was gonna think of my next box be a VS Ultra.. Now I just read this forum about Magnum having card and cardless support... some questions... 1. Is a generic card included with the Magnum? If not, why not? and where would I go to get a card? 2. The built-in card reader.. is that a writer as well? 3. Is it easy to program? And how? I dont know much about how cards work, since I've been using a cardless system(the Fortec) all this time... 1 Card used is a ROM102 or ROM 103, generic cards don't work with Nagra2. 2 Reader and writer but can only AUX the card. 3 Easy to program what? The card or the flash? Think you should do a little reading here on FTA Receivers and Magnum specifically. From you questions it is very obvious you know very little about FTA. READ READ READ. be236 12-15-2006, 09:37 PM Huh? I know enough about FTA to flash bins. My questions are concerning the card-ed aspect of FTAs, not card-less. Yeah, I know I should read more, but actually I did read some in the DN forums, but couldnt find a real "dummies for plastic testing." As for programming, it's obvious I was asking about (re)programming the card; as I already know how to flash bins. focalpoint 12-15-2006, 10:02 PM Sager, I just ordered an ExtremeView Magnum to supplement and possibly replace my SonicView SV-1000. Does the Magnum support USALS? The SV-1000 basically doesn't, as far as I was able to determine through my testing...even if not, I like some of the other features (CAM slot for instance) but I don't know. one2one 12-16-2006, 04:00 AM Huh? I know enough about FTA to flash bins. My questions are concerning the card-ed aspect of FTAs, not card-less. Yeah, I know I should read more, but actually I did read some in the DN forums, but couldnt find a real "dummies for plastic testing." As for programming, it's obvious I was asking about (re)programming the card; as I already know how to flash bins. I don't know if or where all this info is here. But other places usually have a "CAS" section containing the info you seek. This may not be for you, but basically, you will need to find/buy/beg/steel a certain Rev of a 102 or 103 ROM card. Then it will need to be "Unlocked." Once it is unlocked the rest is easy and the card reader in the receiver can Aux the card. Magnums and Coolsats can do this, so the info may be in one of those sections. All the info you need is available once you find the location...ALL needed info. I found my card with the receiver at a flea market for $30. But a good idea to check here for other options available: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=42 Some unlocking info here: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=235 ---------------------------------------edit------------------------------------- be236, I posted the Card info I used to get started here: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=454739#post454739 FTAgal 12-16-2006, 07:46 AM Sager, I just ordered an ExtremeView Magnum to supplement and possibly replace my SonicView SV-1000. Does the Magnum support USALS? The SV-1000 basically doesn't, as far as I was able to determine through my testing...even if not, I like some of the other features (CAM slot for instance) but I don't know. You bet! The magnum has excellent motor function! It is a great FTA box with true blind scan. Sager 12-16-2006, 08:27 AM excellent! stay in your beloved VS forum, then, until you get a Magnum... there was mention of "Chest thumping" by Magnum reps somewhere in this thead. it's been duly noted, HOWEVER, you can go to ANY Pansat forum on ANY site, and you will see Chest thumping" for the Pansat. Same goes for CaptiveWorks, Viewsat, etc., etc... this is fact. peace, out. Ya know, I don't see why it is a big deal to mention how my units work against another. Watch a Honda commercial they talk about a Lexus, stuff like that is done every day on every about every type of product, was the Pepsi challenge a bash of coke? Maybe because i like Pepsi, it wasn't a bash lol! Which ever you choose, having someone mentioning what they like, support , or give updated information about the current condition of, is not chest thumping, its just coversation :) I cannot help it if I am proud of the unit I rep, we all have worked VERY hard to shoot Magnum into the upper ranks of the fta world. Personally I think it is the number one unit made, is it perfect, perhaps not. Can it get better, ABSOLUTELY! We are not a group who makes a good box then sits down and admires it, we want to keep ahead, adding things people want and need and continue to make it better. This is the attitude, of our ENTIRE group! I think that counts for something, don't you? Sager 12-16-2006, 09:03 AM i can honestly say that is the WORST example of shipping,i have ever seen!this came from a dealer?holy crap,please ,these guys are in business?wont be for long if they continue this. it would almost look like it was done on purpose to piss you off .in all honesty extremeview has no fault in this disaster.lol:no: ^_^ I agree 100 percent! 1st thing is, those boxes are NOT meant to ship in that box, those are retail boxes. Any time I ship a unit, it comes in a larger box, with packing material if needed. This dealer made one hell of a massive mistake, ,if it was on purpose or not, who knows. I would like to think not, but only the dealer and god knows. All this HAS been brought to the attention of EV management, and they will look into this mess and deal with it accordingly. This is NOT the image we want, who would? JD1122, I am so sorry it is taking so long to get the replacement! It is however the holiday season, and all things shipped do slow down due to volume this time of year. I hope you can still give this a genuinely objective review once you receive the replacement. I know you love vs, and some of the other units you have. I have so many I would be hard pressed to list them all. When I got my 1st unit, in, I was able to give it a very objective review. I got it of course, before becoming their rep. And when I did get it ,, i said holy crap this scans slow,, but then when I compared the number of channels I got, I was dumb founded. This reminded me, of the speedy coolsat 4k scan, but when comparted to my pansats, the coolsat found far less channels, sometimes missing major ones. Almost 40 more channels than my VS extreme had found, speed is not always the best thing when it comes to scans. But as I messed around with it, I found the 200 mhz cpu had not been wasted on super speedy visual stuff or scan, it was being used where it made the biggest dent, in video quality, speed of autoroll., and other majorly important areas. These things to me, are the most important things in an FTA box, setwire 12-16-2006, 09:21 AM "But as I messed around with it, I found the 200 mhz cpu had not been wasted on super speedy visual stuff or scan, it was being used where it made the biggest dent, in video quality, speed of autoroll., and other majorly important areas. These things to me, are the most important things in an FTA box," Sager If this is the thinking of the Magnum Coders and Magnum team, then why are they wasting space with the 2 games available. I know no one who has bought an FTA Receiver to play Games. If you need space to add more user friendly functions then I would definitely start by eliminating these useless Games. A gimmick that 99.99% of Magnum owners will never use. Just my thoughts on wasted coding space in current Magnum bins.. Sager 12-16-2006, 09:28 AM "But as I messed around with it, I found the 200 mhz cpu had not been wasted on super speedy visual stuff or scan, it was being used where it made the biggest dent, in video quality, speed of autoroll., and other majorly important areas. These things to me, are the most important things in an FTA box," Sager If this is the thinking of the Magnum Coders and Magnum team, then why are they wasting space with the 2 games available. I know no one who has bought an FTA Receiver to play Games. If you need space to add more user friendly functions then I would definitely start by eliminating these useless Games. A gimmick that 99.99% of Magnum owners will never use. Just my thoughts on wasted coding space in current Magnum bins.. Current bin size is 2.6 meg, flash size is 4 meg, not a problem at this time... DoctorNik 12-16-2006, 10:31 AM btw speed of autoroll is controlled by the coding,, not the hardware.. if it was controlled by the hardware,, then many units would still be taking in excess of 5 mins to roll..(ie those with much slower processors and smaller memory) the autoroll function is not an inherant part of an fta ird,, it 'coded',, so,, if it rolls fast, that because your coders streamlined and got rid of bloat,, you may gain a little bit of processing time via hardware,, but most of the time is software driven.. Sager 12-16-2006, 10:37 AM btw speed of autoroll is controlled by the coding,, not the hardware.. if it was controlled by the hardware,, then many units would still be taking in excess of 5 mins to roll.. the autoroll function is not an inherant part of an fta ird,, it 'coded',, so,, if it rolls fast, that because your coders streamlined and got rid of bloat,, you may gain a little bit of processing time via hardware,, but most of the time is software driven.. Of course that is the case, just the concentration is of course on performance, where it counts. Leaving as many cpu cycles free for essential things. Also I never said, that those other things are not important, of course they are, and we work on that stuff too, but the most important things, are what I mentioned.. Anyway, the point is we try to keep it working the best we can, giving the best results possible to the users. After all, we are nothing but a great box without the users. :) DoctorNik 12-16-2006, 10:41 AM hey Sager.. if you noticed,, I complimented your coders ;) be236 12-16-2006, 02:29 PM thanx for the info, one2one.... :) Sager 12-17-2006, 09:26 AM hey Sager.. if you noticed,, I complimented your coders ;) Yes sir I sure did :) Maggys coding crew really has worked their asses off on these bins, they ROCK! asanch48 12-18-2006, 04:07 PM asanch48 I love my Magnum . But the only thing I notice, is the my Magnum pick up only one ppv ch. and vod ch. and the two are the same. Beside that, is a wondeful, marvellous receiver. jd1122 12-18-2006, 04:36 PM asanch48 I love my Magnum . But the only thing I notice, is the my Magnum pick up only one ppv ch. and vod ch. and the two are the same. Beside that, is a wondeful, marvellous receiver. are you on 138 bin, and if so try a factory reset and rescan du2772 12-18-2006, 04:41 PM asanch48 I love my Magnum . But the only thing I notice, is the my Magnum pick up only one ppv ch. and vod ch. and the two are the same. Beside that, is a wondeful, marvellous receiver. It is likely your only picking up one sat and both are not locked in. Go to Setup Satellite, enter both satellite configuration screens, make sure they are correct and when you exit hit red button first to save. Then rescan. just-me 12-19-2006, 02:33 AM asanch48 I love my Magnum . But the only thing I notice, is the my Magnum pick up only one ppv ch. and vod ch. and the two are the same. Beside that, is a wondeful, marvellous receiver. which satellite(s) are you trying to receive? which LNB type(s) are you using? as mentioned, which file is flashed onto your Magnum? it's usually best to start your own thread to receive replies quicker to help you out... showhorse 12-23-2006, 09:30 PM i based my decisios on these things (1) ease of loading bin file (2) simplisity of set up (antenna setup and channel scan) (3) menue (4) speed of changing channels (5) color (6) switching from one provider to another (7) all around on each viewsat has everything won except maybe color .......magnum is slow loading the bin file (slower than viewsat) set up on the magnum isnt that bad i did the whole thing and didnt read manuel........and i am not a whiz ,,"if you can set up the viewsat you can set up the magnum" .....the magnum has the color test won hands down ........but channel scan i think that magnum is little slower i do like the feature of the recall button ....but i have my magnum set up with a sw21 switch on it and it will loose memory switching back and forth with two providers.....my viewsat dont or as much anyway......i dont like the menue on the screen when it comes up on a picture on the tv you cant read it clearly.......needs some help here .......in all i think that it is a good machine and is going to make a large imprint on the fta market.........the things that i was pointing out can be taken care of with a good bin file ......................hang in there and now for the beers..........:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: OldGamer 02-28-2007, 01:02 PM i can honestly say that is the WORST example of shipping,i have ever seen!this came from a dealer?holy crap,please ,these guys are in business?wont be for long if they continue this. it would almost look like it was done on purpose to piss you off .in all honesty extremeview has no fault in this disaster.lol:no: ^_^ Don't wanna hi-jack the thread, but you guys gonna find it interesting what fta1006 wrote about product shipped from magnum:"you seem to be confusing things.delivery has nothing to do with how good or how bad a unit is.first time it was shipped in a horrible manner,i agree now dhl is late but what does extremeview have to... ". Just read his posts and you will see what I'm talking about: he is a rep from Magnum, don't expect anything objective from him. I don't know about Magnum, probably it's a great product, but now his constant ad works against of his boss. jd1122 02-28-2007, 01:34 PM Don't wanna hi-jack the thread, but you guys gonna find it interesting what fta1006 wrote about product shipped from magnum:"you seem to be confusing things.delivery has nothing to do with how good or how bad a unit is.first time it was shipped in a horrible manner,i agree now dhl is late but what does extremeview have to... ". Just read his posts and you will see what I'm talking about: he is a rep from Magnum, don't expect anything objective from him. I don't know about Magnum, probably it's a great product, but now his constant ad works against of his boss. i remember that post because that was my box that was shipped like that it was doa on arrival woofy 02-28-2007, 01:41 PM lol..yea..this is an old thread. |