In one of the largest civil raids in the company’s history, EchoStar Communications confiscated thousands of satellite-signal-privacy devices in several locations throughout Ontario, Canada, officials said Tuesday.

The direct-broadcast satellite provider -- in conjunction with security partner NagraStar and Bell ExpressVu -- conducted the raids and is continuing to work with law-enforcement officials to combat those who illegally intercept and descramble satellite services.

The raids took place July 25 and 26, although EchoStar did not disclose them until its announcement Tuesday.

Thousands of satellite-piracy devices, such as receiver boxes and smart cards, were confiscated, along with records of customer activity, including purchase orders for piracy equipment and requests for technical assistance with pirated equipment. The searches also produced a number of significant leads for similar future actions.

As part of the piracy crackdown, 17 Web sites that were allegedly selling illegal equipment or offering technical advice on stealing signals have been disabled:
www.spacetwister.com
www.angelpride.com
www.devilscrypt.com
www.dssword.com
www.ftafix.com
www.dsstoybox.com, www.extremen2.com
www.globalpayment.com
www.disharm.com
www.internationalhosting.info
www.outerlimitsatellitesupplies.com
www.satgroup.ca
www.overseashostingonline.com
www.dishtoybox.com
www.nagra2hack.com
www.dsswholesale.com
www.armsecuritysolutions.com

The raids were simultaneously conducted at storefronts and residences in Niagara Falls, Amhurstburg, Brampton, Innisfil, Mississauga and Markham, Ontario, according to EchoStar.

The individuals raided were: Rudy Torroni, Mena Torroni, Jeremy Corkery, Bill Taskas, Bill Ilkov, Nicholas Karadza, Michael Pomponio and Mathew Hallewick, as well as several of the individuals’ family members, the satellite company said in a press release.

Businesses raided were: Blue Screen Computer Services, DSSTOYBOX, DISHTOYBOX, Skylink Electronics, HLV Marketing and CanadianDSS.

NagraStar is a joint venture between EchoStar and Kudelski Group. It supplies conditional-access systems and security-access devices and services to EchoStar’s Dish Network and its affiliated companies, such as Bell ExpressVu.


Source: http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6373356.html

Thanks for the info

Looks like www.extremen2.com is still up and running, at least right now the website is open. I don't belong to that website but they seem to still be chattin over there even after being raided back in July. But everything else is down. Hmmmmm.....

Stryker1 :yes:

this game has been going on since the dave days,they make a raid and close a few businesses down to make the powers to be happy,then a judge from some province throws the rulling out because dish does not have a licence to broadcast in canada and business goes on at the expense of a few. I personally have seen the authorities getting a card programmed in the days of dave after one of the rullings, so you figure it out for yourselves.

The thing is...the judge will knock down the charges if they are just playing with DN and doing their cards....but he wont be too smooth with them when it comes down to the____ player! You cant do stuff like that with_____ in Canada! You are asking for trouble...You live in Canada, you can download Mp3, movies and DN files and hacks because u r not breaking cdn laws, US laws yes but u live outside the US! so they cant do shit to u!

The thing is...the judge will knock down the charges if they are just playing with DN and doing their cards....but he wont be too smooth with them when it comes down to the____ player! You cant do stuff like that with_____ in Canada! You are asking for trouble...You live in Canada, you can download Mp3, movies and DN files and hacks because u r not breaking cdn laws, US laws yes but u live outside the US! so they cant do shit to u!

keep that delusion going on and while your giving others a false sense of security,remind them of the supreme court ruling in april of 2002

why do you think it was a joint raid anyway huh?your not alllowed to sell ANYTHING that will decrypt ANYONES signal......same tools that decrypt charlie will do it beaver-lee

now those of you that ordered from these guys with credit and debit cards,dont cry now, start stashing a retainer fee for an attorney cause you may need one? and you thought buying a Viewsat was expensive....lol....buying any fta is probably the only thing they cant touch you for...:p

uh-ohhhhh i hear mili posting to rub some noses in it.....but he was right,you order anything from a US or Canuck dealer and your asking for trouble

:yes:

you are exactly right mackz... since april 2002 it is illegal even to watch a non-authorized decrypted signal in Canada,, (yes, that includes even those guys that 'sub' with a US address... or.. through a broker),,,

some people got alot to learn,,, all over again....

Why is CanadianDSS.com site still up.? I'm in there surfing right now as we speak.?? seems strange that if they were busted, they would still have a complete website up, selling gear, 102s, unlockers, etc, etc.. somethign fishy here.? I think I'll call them and ask what's going on there.??

thats odd, no access to that site for me

I'm in Yahoo.. do a search on canadiandss.com.. don't click on their homepage.. pick one of the
other ones, like shopping, etc... takes you right in.. gives you phone numbers that still work, etc....

I keep hearing discussion on receiving US signals in Canada. The actual broadcasting act in the statutes of Canada only allows prosecution where the signal illegally received is from a Canadian source by it's definition of what a broadcaster is in Canada. Selling equipment and/or services that can decode Canadian broadcasters is against the law - if promoted for that purpose. Where only non-Canadian broadcasters are at risk they are outside the scope of the act by definition. The act is at http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/B-9.01/221691.hXXl . The April ruling allowed for prosecution - though in most cases this has been under civil lawsuits (see article from the CRTC - http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/NEWS/RELEASES/2003/r030320.hXm)

Anyway, not trying to stir up the pot but case law doesn't show any successful prosecutions for receiving and decoding the signals where they originated outside of Canada - at least not where the crown prosecuted the case. :beer:

( ... snip ... Broadcasting Policy for Canada

Declaration
3. (1) It is hereby declared as the broadcasting policy for Canada that

(a) the Canadian broadcasting system shall be effectively owned and controlled by Canadians;

(b) the Canadian broadcasting system, operating primarily in the English and French languages and comprising public, private and community elements, makes use of radio frequencies that are public property and provides, through its programming, a public service essential to the maintenance and enhancement of national identity and cultural sovereignty;

(c) English and French language broadcasting, while sharing common aspects, operate under different conditions and may have different requirements;

(d) the Canadian broadcasting system should ... snip ...)

GEEEEEZ!!!

look up the supreme court decision of april 26 2002...

STOP WITH THIS BULL Chit about what YOU perceive to be the law,, and READ the DAMN RULING!!!!

here's an ENTIRE thread on the subject for you

http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=7694&highlight=supreme+court+ruling

I live in Canada and I know the laws of this country i had to memorized for a test years back. :) and FTA is consider stealing in fact there is a store in London Ontario called Pirate Satellite INC. that store was shut down by the local police. so I guess I have to move to Alberta as soon as possible.
Thank you for the info.
Juanito1

There is a new P4 hack site called p4dragon.com. They claim to have been able to make a FUNCARD work as though it were a P4 or P5 card. Truth is, its not possible. For starters they would have had to crack and duplicate the internal ASIC of the P4 and P5 card which is next to impossible. Second and most important, this site SMACKS of scammer ANGEL (you all remember Angel...SPACETWISTER, EMULATOR1 and others ANGEL). The graphics on the site are an exact duplicate of what Angel had on his site just before he allegedly sold it and it went belly up. Everything Angel does involves some type of scam to seperate you from your money so stay way way way clear of these people....you wont get what you paid for, that I can promise you. __________________________________________________ ___________________________

There is a new P4 hack site called p4dragon.com. They claim to have been able to make a FUNCARD work as though it were a P4 or P5 card. Truth is, its not possible. For starters they would have had to crack and duplicate the internal ASIC of the P4 and P5 card which is next to impossible. Second and most important, this site SMACKS of scammer ANGEL (you all remember Angel...SPACETWISTER, EMULATOR1 and others ANGEL). The graphics on the site are an exact duplicate of what Angel had on his site just before he allegedly sold it and it went belly up. Everything Angel does involves some type of scam to seperate you from your money so stay way way way clear of these people....

sorry fo r the double posting i cant delete computer to slow

yea well guess wat thats the ruling of the US supreme court not the canadian supreme court.

you are soooooooo misinformed.....but thats fine...use your own credit card to order items from anyone you please just dont come crying about it when you get served with something...the laws against piracy were etched in stone in the USA for years...it was the supreme court ruling in Canada back in 2002 that is rapidly closing the door on piracy...aside from what the provider[s] are doing on their own with ecm's and such

this horsesheet about all our information being located offshore in Singapore or bumfock Egypt has no meaning whatsoever if the site is owned by a Canadian or American...now remember that and tell it to the next retard that doesnt understand this

as is i see it,and im not promoting him or his site,but if Mili is trully located in the Bahamas,thats the safest way to order pirate items

the only thing contrary to that would be iso7816 compliant programmers or ANY fta receiver...dish...lnb...etc.....

a smart person...that wanted to order anything pirate related,would use a postal money order and have the patience while the postal service dragged their package along their daisy chain...additionally...its not wise to have anything sent to the actual address where you test....

also.....when you read about someone getting busted...many time you dont know what is going on behind the scenes...deals have been made in the past to voluntarily close a site down and surrender databases and hardware and other assets to forego formal prosecutions

there were once over 300 dss sites related to dss piracy..where are they now?

if it were ok to do business as usual up in Canada...youd still have sites like DR7.com...Piratesden.com......Hitecsat.com.....Dss underground.com...the big boys..the ol' timers

where are they now?

only idiots think its legal to operate pirate businesses in the USA or Canada,you can believe what you want personally...but dont mislead others unless you want to contribute to their legal defense when the sky falls on them

and lastly....looks like 17 got pinched this time up in Canada...anyone still answering their phones there....how do you know its not law enforcement?
and if it not leo....how do you know what they tell you is the truth?.....maybe they turned over databases and agreed to stop selling certain items in order to keep their doors open

as a consumer of pirate products,can you ever really cover your own ass enough?

i think not!

oops..this almost turned into a rant...my deepest apology!

:beer: ;)

<There is a new P4 hack...SNIP!>

Juanito, what does this double-posted stuff have to do with the subject of this thread??

N_R

hxxp://www.rom10x.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49559

a major contributor of this 3 page thread will be glad to clarify aspects of the Radio Communications Act and Supreme Court rulings if anyone is still not convinced of the punitive damages that can occur by buying certain things from ANY North American satellite pirate dealer

the thing is,people are ultimately going to believe what they want to and they have that right to be as ignorant in doing so as some of the spelling mistakes they consistently make

sometimes a good "cullin' of the herd" is what the community needs so the rest of us can walk on by unscathed and free to keep on testin'

in this game,you either learn from the mistakes of others or you are condemned to repeat them

much like everyday life itself huh?

regards,

:)

so what is/ or is it illegal to join any of these sites that got busted?

example, www.ftafix.cxx had streaming tv

was it illegal to join the site just to watch some soccer matches etc

but never buying anything

Rather than rant on about previous postings regarding the Supreme Court rulings.. why don't we got directly to the Canadian Department of Justice, and read exactly what the official current RadioCommunications act has to say on the subject of receiving and decoding satellite signals, updated as of March 03, 2006, Pay particular attention to Paragraphs 9.(1)(c) - Offences and 10.(2.3) Penalties - Exception

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/R-2/258836.html#rid-258851

I have already posted, in an earlier thread, my interpretation of this ruling, and after further investigation still remain with the same personal satisfaction, that receiving/decoding/watching Dish signals in Canada is NOT illegal and punishable, according to what you have also read above..

This far, I am unable to find any official legislation specifically regarding the possesion and use of equipment and material to accomplish said decoding and viewing. I would enjoy anyone being able to direct us to a similar link for legislation from the DofJ on said matter.

According to the Radiocommunication Act, the current penalty for decoding a scrambled signal without permission or for selling or distributing an illegal decoder could be a fine up to $10,000 a day and/or a prison term of up to one year.

Government of Canada Applauds Supreme Court Decision in the Case of Bell ExpressVu vs Richard Rex
OTTAWA, April 26, 2002 — Industry Minister Allan Rock and Canadian Heritage Minister Sheila Copps welcomed today's Supreme Court decision confirming that provisions in the Radiocommunication Act forbid the illegal decoding of satellite television programming.

“Today's Supreme Court decision helps preserve and ensure a strong and vibrant Canadian broadcast industry,” stated Minister Rock . “This is a blow to those pirates of the airwaves that are selling or distributing illegal equipment designed to steal satellite T.V. programming.”

“The Supreme Court's decision supports the government's commitment to put an end to signal piracy and grey market activities. It clearly is a gain for the integrity of the Canadian broadcasting system,” said Minister Copps. “These illegal activities undermine the rights paid by Canadian broadcasters and put at risk investments in Canadian programming that create jobs for Canadian writers, performers and others involved in production.”

The Government of Canada, in cooperation with the Canadian broadcasting industry and law enforcement authorities, will work to stop the selling and distribution of devices designed for the unauthorized decoding of satellite television programming.

The Attorney General of Canada intervened in the case and presented arguments that Section 9(1)(c) of the Radiocommunication Act protects both Canadian and foreign signals from unauthorized decoding.

I live in Canada and I know the laws of this country i had to memorized for a test years back. :) and FTA is consider stealing in fact there is a store in London Ontario called Pirate Satellite INC. that store was shut down by the local police. so I guess I have to move to Alberta as soon as possible.
Thank you for the info.
Juanito1
Juanito, you say FTA is considered stealing? The F stands for FREE.

FTA is not illegal in Canada.. unless it is modified to receive encrypted signals..

Rather than rant on about previous postings regarding the Supreme Court rulings.. why don't we got directly to the Canadian Department of Justice, and read exactly what the official current RadioCommunications act has to say on the subject of receiving and decoding satellite signals, updated as of March 03, 2006, Pay particular attention to Paragraphs 9.(1)(c) - Offences and 10.(2.3) Penalties - Exception

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/R-2/258836.html#rid-258851

I have already posted, in an earlier thread, my interpretation of this ruling, and after further investigation still remain with the same personal satisfaction, that receiving/decoding/watching Dish signals in Canada is NOT illegal and punishable, according to what you have also read above..

This far, I am unable to find any official legislation specifically regarding the possesion and use of equipment and material to accomplish said decoding and viewing. I would enjoy anyone being able to direct us to a similar link for legislation from the DofJ on said matter.


rather than rant on about what your not comprehending about what your reading...how about this...go over to the link i humbly provided and engage GS2 in a conversation and let him spoonfeed you some more.....as you may or may not know...he operated a big pirate site in Canada back in the days of the battery,f,p2 card days as did his buddy TTRK...Empire & VCipher respectively,if memory serves me right..and they both have huge judgements against them now...in the millions of dollars

concerning legislation on dss piracy in Canada,between his firsthand knowledge and what he has stored on muliple harddrives,GS2 is a wealth of information...seek and ye' shall find

of course,if youve already read the link i posted for inquiring minds to GO READ,then you wouldnt be offering lame attempts to negate the FACT that,its illegal to decrypt anyone's signal in North America...you quoted a very small aspect of what it actually says...the reality is that it's illegal to sell any dss pirate item that will allow you to do so with the exception of iso compliant programmers such as a netsignia 210..it IS illegal to decode dishnet or beaver-lee's signal in Canada,the Supreme court ruling certified that once and for all... 100's of dealers up there got away with it for years..it always was a grey area to employ yourself in and once it worked its ways thru appeals and the final law of the land,the fate of piracy was sealed up there as it already had been in the good ol' USA

newbies that read posts like yours have a false sense of security and mistakingly believe such comments without understanding the history of piracy and the legal precedents that are now etched in stone for all to beware

you want to educate yourself,why not speak with someone thats been put thru the court system for years and lost his ass?

and to the gentleman that claimed that fta is illegal to sell there...wrong...fta's are legal everywhere except perhaps communists countries like Cuba..what IS ILLEGAL...is downloading software specifically designed to thwart encryption technologies. so that bin you downloaded to reflash your pansat,viewsat..whatever...is illegal....doesnt matter if you were actually able to get it functioning or not.....you downloaded it,if they can prove it rested on your hardrive,they can come after you...just like they can for pirated movies or music..doesnt matter if you watched the movie or listened to the song.why do you suppose all computers are confiscated when any raid takes place?

the forces[laws] that are protecting the intellectual property rights of others are massive

the information is abundant,doesnt matter if you interpret it another way

now go find GS2..he lives for this...it's in his blood...trust me on that!

:yes: :beer: :lol:

Wow, I never got some much enjoyment out of thread in a LONG time.

Some of you guys really are baffoons, sorry to insult your intelligence but you have none.

Bit of advice, take it or leave it, listen to what mackz is saying and you can not go wrong with the Doc either. He is speaking from a little more then just what he reads ;) Anyways whatever you other "challenged" induviduals want to make yourselves believe have at it but keep your rambling bull to yourselves.

Thanks!