These rumors usually end up being correct so I figured I would post this to the front page. Keep in mind this is unconfirmed as of this writing...

C/P from Tomico:

Toronto Raids
Today at 2pm Canadian Dss was raid so stay away from them this has been confimed.

A few other dealers were raided to but not confirmed.

A few top guys in this industry were servered anton pilar and will talk in 10 days after the gag order.

Hu shack/ fta home Raided today

Dsstoybox / devils cript Raided today

2 more raided but no names yet.

Tecumseh Satellite (shutdown)
Satellite Sams (raided)

Discuss here: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=352275#post352275

Take this info to heart people and DON'T visit the websites associated with these businesses for your own protection.
I just read about somebody who said it wasn't true since the website is still up and running which means what exactly?
They even ordered an item there to prove it?
So, now your name address and credit card number is known to the people who REALLY control the website.
Maybe it's the original owners, or maybe it's the law?
Why take down a website which can be used to collect names etc for future prosecution?
So, if it's NOT true?
You'll know when the RIGHT people post about their business still being open.
Either way, remember what Chip just said, it usually ends up being true.

Take this info to heart people and DON'T visit the websites associated with these businesses for your own protection.
I just read about somebody who said it wasn't true since the website is still up and running which means what exactly?
They even ordered an item there to prove it?
So, now your name address and credit card number is known to the people who REALLY control the website.
Maybe it's the original owners, or maybe it's the law?
Why take down a website which can be used to collect names etc for future prosecution?
So, if it's NOT true?
You'll know when the RIGHT people post about their business still being open.
Either way, remember what Chip just said, it usually ends up being true.
Some people are dumber then a box of rocks.

Found these posted at another UG site:

DssToyBox
extremen2
armega - armulator manufacturers
atmegaman
canadiandss

I see a pattern here.
**v has a rate increase, ppl r pissed.
Next thing u know bam, now u can't even BUY a cheap way out of the rate hikes!
Reminds me of when my first wifes family boxed me in with cars and marched me to the altar.
I really WAS going to marry her,,,, some day.

And they said they are from the UK so we have no clue who it is we are buying from!

Registrant:
Personal
UL: Gorgi Pophristov
Skopje, Macedona 900100
GR

Domain name: DSSTOYBOX.COM

Administrative Contact:
Pirkovski, Milan mpirkovski@dsstoybox.com
UL: Gorgi Pophristov
Skopje, Macedona 900100
GR
+001.9059999999
Technical Contact:
Pirkovski, Milan mpirkovski@dsstoybox.com
UL: Gorgi Pophristov
Skopje, Macedona 900100
GR
+001.9059999999


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 08-Jun-2006.
Record expires on 03-Sep-2007.
Record created on 03-Sep-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS.DSSTOYBOX.COM 217.148.32.63
WEB.DSSTOYBOX.COM 217.148.32.63


Domain status: ACTIVE

Mods please remove if it's not suppost to be here & sorry if that's the case... This drives me crazy..... Because I wounder where some of our sponsers are located......:o

These rumors usually end up being correct so I figured I would post this to the front page. Keep in mind this is unconfirmed as of this writing...

C/P from Tomico:

Toronto Raids
Today at 2pm Canadian Dss was raid so stay away from them this has been confimed.

A few other dealers were raided to but not confirmed.

A few top guys in this industry were servered anton pilar and will talk in 10 days after the gag order.

Hu shack/ fta home Raided today

Dsstoybox / devils cript Raided today

2 more raided but no names yet.

Tecumseh Satellite (shutdown)
Satellite Sams (raided)

Discuss here: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=352275#post352275

Well, I would just like to know who gives a big ole shit. If the dumb asses are dumb enough to sell the shit out in the open, they deserve to get caught. I don't see what difference it makes here if they got busted. I say it's too bad, but OH WELL !!

:no: :no: :no:

These rumors usually end up being correct so I figured I would post this to the front page. Keep in mind this is unconfirmed as of this writing...

C/P from Tomico:

Toronto Raids
Today at 2pm Canadian Dss was raid so stay away from them this has been confimed.

A few other dealers were raided to but not confirmed.

A few top guys in this industry were servered anton pilar and will talk in 10 days after the gag order.

Hu shack/ fta home Raided today

Dsstoybox / devils cript Raided today

2 more raided but no names yet.

Tecumseh Satellite (shutdown)
Satellite Sams (raided)

Discuss here: http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=352275#post352275

Chip, thanks for the info about some possible businesses to stay away from... I guess we need to start a thread of stores and businesses to stay away from.. Sort of like that local store, that has all the bad checks posted up on the wall behind them. To let others, know, not to take checks from those people.... and to embarass them of course, this one, would be to let those who are interested and prefer to be on the cautious side, to at least have a list of places to avoid, no sense taking a risk, when it is not necessary..... I know there is a thread for places that don't delliver what they sale for one reason or another. But this one is just as important... don't you think? :yes:

I guess I get a little annoyed that people are more worried they might order from a site that has been busted than worrying that a site they had previously bought from got busted. Whether you buy tomorrow or bought last year, your records are equally available when the site owner negotiates his punishment by turning you in.
If the law took over the site, there is little chance they would run it, felonies are important not this stuff. I havent seen any legal cases on wumarkus documenting something like that. There is a much better chance the owner will run it to generate cash that he can run with ( or at least hide) before he turns your name over, that has happened.
The key factor is the money trail, if you dont protect yourself, dont expect a dealer to.

Giving out names of stores/suppliers on here is not such a good idea, I bet this site is monitored as well and you make their jobs easy, and all in one place...
Our suppliers are aware of the risks when they start selling items, or should be!
Do a due dilligence of the supplier before placing ANY ORDER... usually there is a phone number or at least an e-mail address in all ADs.

Most of all READ everything on here posted by all the nice folks...their advice is invaluable!! Thank you again.... waiting for the day we're up and running again
Cheers :beer: :beer:

..... Because I wounder where some of our sponsers are located......:o

if you even began to believe that these 'off shore' sponsors were off shore, you need a reality check.

Remember, it makes no difference where the server is located, it's the person who has control of it.... they say "off shore, the authorities can't get at it", and that's for the most part true.. BUT,, and a BIG BUT.. once the owner/operator of the site is busted,, all the authorities have to do is ask nicely for the keys.. and the owner will fall all over themselves to them up,, along with any paperwork needed..

Only one that I can think of, defied the anton pillar, didn't turn anything over,, and he's paying the price,, he destroyed the customer records, and took it on the chin...

Only one...

doctor nick is right , most offshore site owners , control there sites in north amaerica, once busted the law go's to court to get the server logins and passwords from the dealers , most of them give the info over to avoid more punishment. It's sad but true.

We know what we are, and so do they.
Nobody expects any heroes here.
It's a risky game and eventually somebody's gonna take the fall.
Usually it's the ones who aren't careful, who become lax and complacent.
After awhile you hear no reports of anybody getting nailed and you just sort of relax your guard.
Then It happens and the only ones who fly away are the ones who never posted anything anywhere.
Take that as a simple heads up.
If you ever posted anything anywhere in a public FTA forum relating to your location, dob or other personal info then you really should go back and do an edit.
Keep your personal info to yourself. Even a yahoo email can be traced.
You may SEE an aim, yahoo, msn and skype tag on my name, but try clicking them and you'll see they are all bogus.
And my webpage is the biggest joke.
I mean, who here actually believes I created Google?
Am I paranoid?
YOU better believe it!

I am wondering what kind of purchase is considered dangerous. For example, if you have bought a FTA receiver and LNB from one of these retailers. Even assuming the seller gives up your name, what is wrong with buying a receiver and LNB.

guys stop being so worried, when all comes out u will see who and why this all came down , bev isn't going after the end user at this time, they wanted to put a big hole in this industry , and have that was there goal.

Believe Tomico if anyone knows gossip he is the man...

Don't be worried about buying an FTA receiver, after all FTA boxes are legal for Free To Air programming. Just cause you bought from a dealer that sells a variety of stuff that is not legal doesn't put you at risk. Even if you bought a loader or ISO etc Dish and b3v don't usually come after the end user the want to squeeze the source of the problem.

And seeing as he never said why they were targeted, just like Syndrome was these guys were targeted because of the Armulator. ;)

Believe Tomico if anyone knows gossip he is the man...

Don't be worried about buying an FTA receiver, after all FTA boxes are legal for Free To Air programming. Just cause you bought from a dealer that sells a variety of stuff that is not legal doesn't put you at risk. Even if you bought a loader or ISO etc Dish and b3v don't usually come after the end user the want to squeeze the source of the problem.

And seeing as he never said why they were targeted, just like Syndrome was these guys were targeted because of the Armulator. ;)

just to clear things up this is way bigger then the armulator so no that was not the cause.

This is most likely true, as i have been to CanadianDSS a few times in the past few days, and no one is there. Doors are locked.

THE LAW HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN GO TO PEOPLES HOMES,BEV yelled to some higher up and they had to raide a few businesses to make it look good. when direct tv was still up there was a cat and mouse game on legality,one judge would throw it out then it was legal and everybody opened up shop,then bev would squak and then it was illegal again, i personally went to get my card updated and a rcmp cruiser pulled up, i thought raid, but he came in full uniform to get his updated,this was in the late 90<s go figure