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I have gone through this a couple of days now, and I just cant figure out why its not working. The problem is that I loosed Level and Quality every time I start changing the channels, it seems that it looses the level and quality when going through different sats, for example from 110 to 119. I cant get the tuner to lock for a long time.....someone please help....this is so frustrating....I do get all the channels but....I cant look through all of them because I loose signal. I feel that the problem is in my LNB configuration. When I loose signal, I have to go back to the scan screen and scan again, but this takes forever. Maybe its the transponders....Someone please....if you have some information that I could use.....let me know....;) ....:no:

thanx in advance....happy holidays....:D

happy holidays to you too
most of the cases like yours caused by dnet twin lnb dpro.
the dn twin lnb dpro has a built in auto switch circuitry to combine 110'&119' and running just single cable to receiver. if that is what you have, you can test it before decide what to do next.
switch your stb power off, connect 119' port on lnb(look onto the dish, it's on right side), switch your orasat on, turn orasat on with r.control, goto menu, factory set, ok, 0000, factory set, ok.
ech 7, lnb configuration, type= standard, high l.o= 11250 ghz, 22khz= 0, diseqc= none; scan 1tp(tp1) the first about 10 channels are local channels if not check your elevation and skew, if all the setup are right and no having local channels, go to get a new lnb.
do the same with 110', just switch cable to 110' lnb out, the first channel of 110' is history channel, if both 110' and 119' works seperately then the switch is gone, when the switch is gone, the lnbs is very close to be replaced too. i hope that answer your question?:beer:

Patrickc10,

Thanks for all the info you posted....I tried what you mentioned, and it seemed to work a little longer than before. I replaced a diplexer that was outside and looked a little rusty. I have a dish pro plus and I have a diplexer outside then coax coming into the bedroom. There is another diplexer in the bedroom then coax to the orasat. After 10 hours of trying to figure this out, I noticed what exactly was happening. The signal will not hold after about 30 seconds in most cases when watching a channel. I will start watching a channel and about 30 seconds after that the signal goes out. It seems that when switching channels from one transponder frequency to another transponder frequency, the satellite looses all signal, it does not like the transponder changes at all. I have tried so many combinations of LNB configuration, my fingers are going to fall off. Do I need a universal LNB that can handle linear and vertical at the same time, I saw this universal digital lnb, do you think this will help....I just don't know what to do anymore....is there anything else that you can think of....I ran out of ideas....what else can I try....;) :no:

Thanx in advance....:D

Patrickc10,

Thanks for all the info you posted....I tried what you mentioned, and it seemed to work a little longer than before. I replaced a diplexer that was outside and looked a little rusty. I have a dish pro plus and I have a diplexer outside then coax coming into the bedroom. There is another diplexer in the bedroom then coax to the orasat. After 10 hours of trying to figure this out, I noticed what exactly was happening. The signal will not hold after about 30 seconds in most cases when watching a channel. I will start watching a channel and about 30 seconds after that the signal goes out. It seems that when switching channels from one transponder frequency to another transponder frequency, the satellite looses all signal, it does not like the transponder changes at all. I have tried so many combinations of LNB configuration, my fingers are going to fall off. Do I need a universal LNB that can handle linear and vertical at the same time, I saw this universal digital lnb, do you think this will help....I just don't know what to do anymore....is there anything else that you can think of....I ran out of ideas....what else can I try....;) :no:

Thanx in advance....:D
rti..would you mind to tell me what is the reason for using the signal combiner diplexer? before i i am telling you that you screwed yourself by using it???
if i am not wrong that you have dishpro+ twin lnbf with 3 outputs? if that is what you have ***just run 1 cable from either port(2 on right when look from front) straight to your orasat; just remember**turn the receiver power off before making any connection to lnb or....:beer:

Thanks again for the info Patickc,

I have done what you said, and it seems to be working fine. The only thing is that my signal is level 55% and Quality is 50% always now....I cannot get a good signal...then when I start changing the channels the signal sometime goes all the way down and I have no picture. Then I have to keep changing the channels for about 1-2 minutes before signal goes up again and I can see the channels again....any suggestions....???

:D ;)

Thanks again for the info Patickc,

I have done what you said, and it seems to be working fine. The only thing is that my signal is level 55% and Quality is 50% always now....I cannot get a good signal...then when I start changing the channels the signal sometime goes all the way down and I have no picture. Then I have to keep changing the channels for about 1-2 minutes before signal goes up again and I can see the channels again....any suggestions....???

:D ;)
you need to have your dish fine tunning...:yes:

Sounds good.....I have another question. The dish pro plus that is installed right now at my home, was installed by dishnet, it should already be fine tuned....right? Before I connected my orasat, the dish plus pro was connected to a dish reciever....and I have never moved the dish...so it is still in its original positioning by the dishnet installers....do I still need to move the dish????

Thanx....;)

don't move the dish....but the dish pro plus lnbs aren't the best to use with fta

Sounds good.....I have another question. The dish pro plus that is installed right now at my home, was installed by dishnet, it should already be fine tuned....right? Before I connected my orasat, the dish plus pro was connected to a dish reciever....and I have never moved the dish...so it is still in its original positioning by the dishnet installers....do I still need to move the dish????

Thanx....;)
If you watch with dish pro sub you need a dp34 or dp44 switch to keep your sub and have fta with Orasat. I could never get it all to work with digiwave 7000 but bought the Orasat and never watch the digiwave ne more.

Thanx for the info....

What LNBs do you guys suggest with the orasat, that will still fit on a dish pro plus mount??? I was looking at a universal LNB that receives circular and linear signal and is dual output as well. Its called Invacom QPH-031. Is it worth getting this one, which is the best LNB for the dish pro plus satellite with a orasat reciever?? All I want is to have an excellent signal, right now its only at 50%! If I figure out a way to get 100% signal, my problems will be over, I think!!

What if I add a line signal amplifier, will this give me 100% signal??? This seems to be the easiest way, I think!!! I am just looking for a good solution.....any suggestions??? I am running out of ideas quickly!!! :wacko: ......;)

Thanx in advance.....

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Sounds good.....I have another question. The dish pro plus that is installed right now at my home, was installed by dishnet, it should already be fine tuned....right? Before I connected my orasat, the dish plus pro was connected to a dish reciever....and I have never moved the dish...so it is still in its original positioning by the dishnet installers....do I still need to move the dish????

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Sounds good.....I have another question. The dish pro plus that is installed right now at my home, was installed by dishnet, it should already be fine tuned....right? Before I connected my orasat, the dish plus pro was connected to a dish reciever....and I have never moved the dish...so it is still in its original positioning by the dishnet installers....do I still need to move the dish????
you are the man:yes: :beer:

The reason that some of you are having a issue is due to the settings you are using. The default settings for your switch/lnb are not the proper settings and do not perform the best. The orasat does want you using the proper settings so everything works out better for you. If you are using improper settings it will still run and work however it wont work at the rate it should. After changing and fixing the settings your satellite free to air system will be running and operating much better.

I see a few of you had that issue but got it fixed thanks to information provided to you by dss tester or orasat support team. I am very happy to hear that orasat support has helped you and that you are all very happy with the huge support for orasat. We are constantly improving the orasat and that is why you hear such good things about orasat.

If you watch with dish pro sub you need a dp34 or dp44 switch to keep your sub and have fta with Orasat. I could never get it all to work with digiwave 7000 but bought the Orasat and never watch the digiwave ne more.

It is like goheels has said, with other free to air receivers you have a bigger problem and some will not work at all. With the orasat no matter what satellite system you have it will run better using a orasat receiver.

If any of you have any questions comments or issues please PM me and I will help you with that.

Thank you to the board members the board DSS TESTER and thanks orasat for the great support.

thank you to patrickc10 for giving some help and advice!!

good work buddy.

Hello All,
I posted couple messages on this board about not getting all the channels (CNN, HBO, Discovery, ESPN...) but got no direct instruction how to fix this.
Please some expert outhere, help me to fix this problem.
Thanks,

thank you to patrickc10

Happy hoilday to all I have read all the post but maybe i miss something
I didn't see any post that outline the setting for the DP/sw34 with the Orasat
do we just set it to the DP setting on the orasat and then scan?

to setup the dp or dishpro 34 on orasat is the same with the rest of other fta receiver, there are plenty of posts regarding dp34 switch:yes:

Thank you Patrickc10! found it after i send my post

Well, I am still having some trouble getting both 110 & 119. It seems that only 6&8 come in with no problems at all. When ever I add 7, the channel signal goes bad. Then I have to keep changing channels until the signal comes back up and I could watch channels again. I also tried adding a Invacom Universal quad lnb. I used the Invacom lnb by itself with the orasat receiver and did not get any signal. I tested it for a while and finally decided to just add the Invacom lnb to the input on the dp lnb. It seems to work good this way for 6&8. But still having many problems with 7. I just don't know what it could be. Also I noticed that having all recievers that are connected to the dish should be always on, to power the lnb fully. I have also bought an in line amp for the signal, but there was not a big change.

If anyone has any other suggestions...let me know....
I am a little dissapointed with this issue...:no:

Thanx in advance and happy new year....:hat: :yes:

Well, I am still having some trouble getting both 110 & 119. It seems that only 6&8 come in with no problems at all. When ever I add 7, the channel signal goes bad. Then I have to keep changing channels until the signal comes back up and I could watch channels again. I also tried adding a Invacom Universal quad lnb. I used the Invacom lnb by itself with the orasat receiver and did not get any signal. I tested it for a while and finally decided to just add the Invacom lnb to the input on the dp lnb. It seems to work good this way for 6&8. But still having many problems with 7. I just don't know what it could be. Also I noticed that having all recievers that are connected to the dish should be always on, to power the lnb fully. I have also bought an in line amp for the signal, but there was not a big change.

If anyone has any other suggestions...let me know....
I am a little dissapointed with this issue...:no:

Thanx in advance and happy new year....:hat: :yes:

I am not quite understand your configuration.
Can you clear mention about your dish type and LNB type at menu in Orasat ?

rtijerina... I am frustrated as much as you. I am using the Dish500 with the dual LNB (dispro). I only get the quality signal at 48 to 52. I fine-tuned it to 80s. It would hold it for awhile before it dropped to 52 again. When I hook up to the old dish network receiver, it signal indicator was at the high 90s.

Many channels, especially on Echo7,were not available and (if available) pictures kept freezing due to the weak signal. I do not know if I use different kind of dish would make any difference at all.

My lnb configuration right now is:

sat 110
lnb dishpro
High Lo 11250
Low Lo 0
Power On
0/22KHz 0
Angle 110.0W
Diseqc 0

Using this configuration sat 110 works great, but if I add sat 119 with the same configuration, I get problems.
This works good! but Not with sat 119.
If I use this same configuration, for 110 and 119, I will have signal problems when changing channels from one tp to another. If I am on one tp, there is no problem changing channels on the same tp, but when I change channels to a different tp, the signal will be lost and then I have to keep changing channels for a while until the signal comes back.

Thanx for the help....I will take any suggestions
Hopefully someone has an idea of what my problem could be!!!:yes: :wacko:

rtijerina... I am frustrated as much as you. I am using the Dish500 with the dual LNB (dispro). I only get the quality signal at 48 to 52. I fine-tuned it to 80s. It would hold it for awhile before it dropped to 52 again. When I hook up to the old dish network receiver, it signal indicator was at the high 90s.

Many channels, especially on Echo7,were not available and (if available) pictures kept freezing due to the weak signal. I do not know if I use different kind of dish would make any difference at all.
hi khonelao
as i remember the last time you ask some things else? i did respond to your post, did i? any way, all the echo sats are not desgned for fta but for their own receivers, that is the reason why when an intaller set the dish off a bit and we still can have good reception if using echo receivers but not fta.
most tps needs to have signal quality of about 100+ on echo receiver except tp2- the one with hbo east in it is very low about 88.
if the signal quality is 88 on echo, then your orasat would have about 62, that is low but good enough to have a clear reception.
***there are a few reasons for not having high quality signal or signal not stable.
**when intalled the dish on roof, the contracting/ expanding of shingle can
cause the dish out of correct spot(i prefer the metal pole), especially, the
flywood sheating is so thin, it given very little holding with strong wind( i
always add 2 small pieces of 2x4 when install on the roof)
** the width of the base is not level(5" wide), make it very difficult to get
above 100 quality signal on echo receiver.
** the mast is not welly secured to the base( 3 bolts), that is mainly the
cause of jumpy signal quality
the tools i always carry when go to install a dn 500 dish are, 6" water level, old echo receiver, 2 ratches with about 5 sockets, a little cressent wrench, and a 12" tv set. try that 3 items and get back to me with your result, thanks:beer:

Patrickc10,


After testing for a long time, I still don't know why I cant get both satellites to work. I still have the Dish pro two outputs and 1 input lnb. I have 2 recievers connected now. I have one orasat and one dp 311. The dp 311 works fine and gets both 110 and 119. The orasat has problems getting both 110 and 119. If I scan 110 first, then when I scan 119 the same tp's from 110 will show up for 119. If I scan 119 first, then when I scan 110 next, the 119 tp's will show up for 110. I don't understand. It seems I can only watch one satellite at a time.

Why does the dp 311 work fine and gets both 110 and 119, and the orasat has trouble getting both sats? I have tried many different configs for the lnb settings but I either get 110 or 119. If I scan 110 first, 119 will give me the same thing. If I scan 119 first, then 110 will be the same thing.

Does anyone have any suggestions...I am open to any!!!:yes:

Thanx in advance........

i been using orasats to catch 110', 119', and 121' with bin 116 and not even have a single hiccup. as you know that dishpro twin plus( is that what you have?) has 2 outputs( close, side by side) and 1 input. 1 output to 3100-013 ird, the other one to orasat,if you are not using dp34, both 110' and 119' need to have same lnb configuration and the diseqc=blank. if you have more then 1 dish500 with dishpro twin lnb, or somethings else, you may need to post your current setup:beer:

any resolution on this issue? I am having a very similar issues with dish setup

I have noticed that you cant have the same TP on both satellites. If i have one tp on one satellite, it will be the same tp channels for the other satellite as well. So pick your tps depending what channels you want to watch. It took me a long time to figure that out. I dont know why, you cant have the same tp number for two satellites and get different channels, I always end up having one tp from either sat 6,8 or 7 be the same channels on both sats. I just picked what tps were the most important for me. You can always reset system settings if it does not scan the channels you want....

Hope this helps a little at least....good luck!:yes: :hat:

Can anyone tell me why I have lost a lot of my channels? I started to lose my porn channels and HBO's. Now I've also lost Showtime, my last porn channel (TEN, ch495) and now losing some PPV channels as well. Can I expect this to continue? Can I somehow recover these channels? Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks,
George

Can anyone tell me why I have lost a lot of my channels? I started to lose my porn channels and HBO's. Now I've also lost Showtime, my last porn channel (TEN, ch495) and now losing some PPV channels as well. Can I expect this to continue? Can I somehow recover these channels? Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks,
George
orasat is not the only one but all the fta receivers. since dn has relocated channels and transponders even the one with auto tp still get a hiccup. you can delete all the channels and rescan it( it takes time but safe for newbies:p ) or copy down the lnb configuration, do the factory set and scan again. enjoy testing:beer: