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Mas
10-04-2005, 09:45 PM
Lately; there are a lot of members have been asking about what is the requiment for dish to work with FTA reciever, and some confusing about Dish-500 and type of LNB.

I have found some document, and hope it will help to clear thing up. The following is not my work, had found from other site


Thanks to Original Ripper Nice work!!

Mas
10-04-2005, 09:49 PM
Dish Legacy dual (2) output with one satellite

Mas
10-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Dish Legacy Twin Quad(4) output, 2 satellites

Mas
10-04-2005, 09:55 PM
DishPro duak 2 output, one satellite

Mas
10-04-2005, 09:58 PM
DishPro Twin dual 2 uotput, 2 satellites

Mas
10-13-2005, 05:33 PM
Here is better DishPro information, after you down load this attachment, and read thought it, you should know your DP LNB very well:yes:

This set up is for Dishnet receiver only, not FTA set up, it is to help you unserstanding how DP type LNB WORK

loutheunlooperwiz
10-15-2005, 03:48 PM
I have a pansat 3500s working with a legacy quad with a built in sw21 and it works flawlessly with no problems. Lou

realplaya3tn
10-15-2005, 05:49 PM
ok, so the dish 500 pro lnb in the 4th picture, if i get that, it has two outputs, so can i still hook that up the a diseqc switch and use it, or does it have to go directly to the receiver?? it has the 2 outputs from the 2 lnbs, that's why i'm asking, is it possible to connect that to the diseqc and get the 3 satelites?

97w on 33 inch dish
110, 119, on 20" DN dish

on one diseqc switch --> then to receiver

will that work?

thill1951
10-16-2005, 06:11 AM
Those pictures are Circular LNB's commonly used for dishnetwork FTA receivers...97W requires a linear or universal LNB...U will need 2 different LNB's on your dish...Circular Dish pro twin (has built in disque switchs) for the 110 and 119 birds to get dishnetwork TV on a FTA receiver..and a single linear LNB for the 97W IA5 bird (no switchs)...U are mixing apples and oranges here..

I have read the folllowing,which if true might possibly allow U to get the 97W with the bigger dish,but will have a 50% loss of signal..most people just use the appropriate LNB's..

Quote:
...you could use linear LNB to get circular signal with 50% signal lost.



You will need a large dish to compensate for this loss.


Quote:
...you can't use circular LNB to get linear signal.


Technically incorrect. Trying to receive linear polarized signals with a circular polarized lnb (antenna) is possible with the same 3dB/50% loss of signal.

The actual reason why you most likely cannot receive linear signals with circular lnb's is because most all "DSS" circular polarized lnb's are incapable of receiving the frequecies at which linear FSS signals occur:

Standard FSS LNB (11.7-12.2 GHz)
-------->DSS LNB (12.2-12.75 GHz)

Universal FSS LNB (10.7-12.75 GHz) <-- has wide bandwidth

Mas
10-22-2005, 07:40 AM
Here is another LNB pictures http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=40984

ReneB64
10-28-2005, 12:59 PM
I found, I am getting all of the channels with the Legacy Twin connected directly to my viewsat. Thought we had to use Dish pro or add switch, but seems to be working for me.

Pansat54
11-07-2005, 05:47 AM
I'm reading all this great data, but honestly I'm having some difficulty sorting it all out.

I currently have the Dish 500, using SW64 to feed two Dish receivers. My desire is to add the Pansat 3500. Will the SW64 work, and if so how is it configured. I was told that as lond as you limit to two sats it works. "Second" sat is switched using 22 khz setting?

My 3500 will arrive tomorrow and I'm trying to find out what awaits me.

Thanks

el_vaquero
11-07-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm reading all this great data, but honestly I'm having some difficulty sorting it all out.

I currently have the Dish 500, using SW64 to feed two Dish receivers. My desire is to add the Pansat 3500. Will the SW64 work, and if so how is it configured. I was told that as lond as you limit to two sats it works. "Second" sat is switched using 22 khz setting?

My 3500 will arrive tomorrow and I'm trying to find out what awaits me.

Thanks
you will need a dp34 and check the picture i posted here (#6)
http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=41601

Derwoody
11-08-2005, 02:22 PM
Hey has anyone tried one of them new Invacom CP/LP LNBF's? Its suppose to work with circular and linear signals. Here is the info if no one has seen them:

Invacom announces another first in LNB development and products, the CP/LP LNBF.

One LNBF provides simultaneous reception of both linear and circular polarized signals with an incredible 0.3dB noise figure and 55dB gain! The Quad output design allows for twin switched output of the linear signals and twin switched output of the circular signals. Receive both types of satellites with one LNBF. No more hassles of off-setting a 2nd LNBF!

Ideal for motorized dishes. Perfect for fixed dish reception of DirecTV and AMC4.

You will not find a more ideal LNBF for the reception of Dish Network and DirecTV in fringe signal areas. An incredible low noise and high gain LNBF for Dish Network and DirecTV. Compare the .3 dB noise figure and 55dB gain typical specification to a standard circular LNBF with a .7-.9 / 55. LO stability is rated a typical +/- 1MHz! This LNBF will out perform any circular DBs / DSS LNBF on the market!

Designed to integrate seamlessly with Dish Network, DirecTV and MPEG2 DVB-S FTA switches and receivers. The circular DSS LO frequency is standard 11250 and linear FSS LO frequency is 10750.
Why buy a CP/LP LNBF?

One LNBF provides reception of all satellites types in a motorized system.
One LNBF provides simultaneous reception of CP and LP satellites in one orbital position for up to 4 receivers.
One LNBF provides reception to both your DVB-S FTA, Dish Network and DirecTV receivers.
Cost is $99 approx.

At that cost I guess you would want to have a dish of atleast 38" and a motor, cause I doubt you would want to have to buy a few to point at all the different sats, as I understand it. Unless the line that says simultaneous reception means you can pull in a few sats pointed at one general direction. If anyone knows or has any experience with these, let us know.

Derwoody

wmt53
11-08-2005, 08:05 PM
Hello,
I just purchased an orasat system from Broadtek. Included an orasat 5.0 receiver, orasat ku-band lnbf, 4x1 DiSEqC switch, 36" orasat dish. There is no setup instruction. Please someone expert show me how to setup this ku-band lnbf. What is the parameter I need to put in the orasat receiver menu under setup nlb.
Many thanks in advance

william

thehitch
11-09-2005, 02:30 PM
Trying to sell a package of spam, the only left out was the price.

coolfta
11-13-2005, 07:01 PM
Now I have 2 dishes

1.dp 500 Twin, 2 output, each ouput carries signal for 110, and 119, presently working fine
2. Another one I have is Legacy(no dp mark on it), single, 2 output, 1 sat.

Now I want to combine them, using dp500 for 119, and 110, and legacy for 61.5 using disEqC switch.

Can I combine these 2 types of Lnb on 1 switch, or they all have to be dp.

greenhulk2
11-29-2005, 01:36 PM
i got a directv round dish with 3 lnb on it. i'm using it for coolsat5000plat but couldn't get 119 in. i can only get 110. the 119 channels show that it has strong signal but no video. help?

here_fishey
11-29-2005, 08:59 PM
Ok, I don't have a coolsat, but I do have a triple lnb dave dish, so maybe this will help....

I had to cover the 110 lnb with tinfoil before I could get signal off of the 119 lnb. I then did a blind scan of the satellite to get the channels (This might be called power scan or something similar for your receiver).

After removing the tin foil I was able to move the dish from one bird to the other, but I had h3ll getting both at the same time, until I used this program, and I re-aimed my dish -- and it is in a very different spot than for each by themselves...

http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=31133

Use the settings for the superdish.

greenhulk2
12-03-2005, 10:05 PM
what do you mean? which lnb is 110 or 119?
i tried to move the dish and could get 119 in but i would loose 110. :mad: seem like that i could only get one sat in by point the dish a lil bit to the right bird but not both.

thill1951
12-04-2005, 05:28 AM
The Phase III oval dish (FAQ)
All about the Phase 3 dish
(made for DTV, has 3 LNBs in same enclosure and built in multiswitch.)
YES, you CAN use this for your FTA setup to get 91 and 110 !

Advantages
1. You can add 2 LNBs and get 82 and 119 too on same dish.
2. Cheap or free from your DTV system.
3. Use only one wire and get 2 sats.
4. If u add 82 and 119, you'll use 3 ports on your diseq switch.. perfect to hook up an additonal bigger dish and a linear LNB and get birds like Intelsat 5 (T5) on your diseq empty port.

Connection
1. You need only 1 coax cable per receiver connected to the Phaze 3 dish, which is an advantage.
2. It doesnt matter which of the 4 ports you connect to. All 4 are the same in functionality. Your receiver will use the built in multiswitch to select one of the 3 sats. It does that via voltage change and 22khz tone signalling.

What this dish is for and how it was meant to work
1. This dish is for DirectTV. Was made to get the 101, 110 and 119 DTV sats.
2. Looking from behind the dish, the LNB are used like so:
.......left lnb = 119 sat
..middle lnb = 110 sat
.....right lnb = 101 sat
3. The multiswitch inside uses 22khz tone that is sent by your receiver to switch between 2 sats (just like any other 22khz switch). You'll have to set that up in your Pansat receiver.
4. 2 sats?? Yes! The multiswitch inside also serves as a combiner to combine signal from 110 and 119. So the 22khz will switch between the signal of 110 and 119 combined and the signal of 101

How the built in combiner works
1. The combiner takes TPs 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 28, 30 and 32 from the middle LNB (110) and all the rest of the 32 TPs of the left LNB (119). You cannot change what TPs are combined... Covering middle LNB with foil wont work, cutting traces on the pcb wont work.
2. This is OK for DTV because DTV only has 3 TP's on DTV's 110 (28, 30 and 32) and they are different from the TPs on DTV's 119. (a tp is a frequency band on which up to 14 channels are transmitted). So combining different frequencies on the same wire, works fine. But it will affect your FTA setup.

How the built in combiner affects your pansat setup
1. You can use the Phaze 3 dish to get the 91 (bev) and the 110 (dn) satellites.
2. For that you point the dish to 101 (middle lnb), and adjust the skew. Now the left LNB picks up 110 (looking from behind the dish) and the right LNB picks up 91.
3. The combiner will combine TPs 2,4,6,8,10,12 and 14 from the 101 DTV sat with the rest of the TPs of the 110 DN sat. This means you will not be able to get TPs 2,4,6,8,10,12 and 14 from the 110 sat. but read on to see what your're missing.

What channels will i be missing on my Pansat
1. You will be missing only some local channels. (ABC,CBS..etc..), which may or may not be local to you. Thats it !
2. To see what is missing you go to lyngsat and check to see whats on TP 2,4,6,8,10,12 and 14 on DN's 110 sat.
4. You will see that ALL but 2 of these TPs are of BEAM type... which means you wouldnt have been able to get them ANYWAYS, Unless you are in the area indicated for that particular beam.
5. The 2 conus (available nationwide) tps that you'll be missing are TP 12 and TP 14. Whats on it? Only locals from Lexington, Knoxville, Jackson and Denver.


What you should be pointing it to, to get 91 and 110
Pansat setup:
Assuming you will point this dish to 101 (middle LNB to 101), you will be able to get 91 and 110 on the 2 outside LNBs WITH proper SKEW, and thats what u want do to if you gonna use it with your Pansat. The middle LNB is useless for Pansat setups on Phase 3 dish as it will be pointed to DTV's 101 sat. Also covering this lnb with anything won't help to give u back those locals that you'll be missing.
To get the azimuth and elevation for your dish, calculate it for the 101 sat. For skew see below.

DTV setup
If you set the dish like above, it will not work for DTV. If you want it to work for DTV you point it to 110 (middle lnb gets 110) and the outer will get 101 and 119.
To get the azimuth and elevation for your dish, calculate it for the 110 sat. For skew see below. Or you can use your DTV receiver, enter your zip code and it will give you all settings.

U can't use the Phase 3 dish for DTV and Pansat at the same time because you're pointing to different sats.

How to calculate and use Skew:
Skew= vertical offset (twist) in degrees from the vertical (from the 90 degrees mark on your dish)
1. Go to Satellite Nut page
2. Enter your location info.
3. Calculate skew for the 2 outter satellites on your dish (for the pansat setup on Phaze3 that would be 91 and 119)
4. Add them toghether and divide by 2
5. U get the skew number. (Disregard the minus sign if its negative)

To use SKEW:
You must ensure that the top of the mast is perfectly plum. Best thing is to use an eye round level (home depot,tools section - $3) that u put right on top of the mast. You do that BEFORE you even put the dish on the mast.

If you are on the EAST coast, skew = counter-clockwise rotation in degrees from the 90 deg mark on your phaze 3 dish. Set your dish to 90 minus the skew number
If you are on the WEST coast, skew = clockwise rotation in degrees from the 90 deg mark on your phaze 3 dish. Set dish to 90 plus the skew number

Receiver setup
No diseq switch is needed, only one wire needs to be connected to the Phase 3
91: 22khz OFF, Diseq - OFF (or ON - doesnt matter)
110: 22khz ON, Diseq - OFF (or ON - doesnt matter)

Can i also get 119 on this dish?
Yes, if you have an additional DTV or DN (circular) LNB laying around, you can strap it to the LEFT of the 3 existing LNBs (looking from behind the dish). You will now have to use a DiseqC switch to switch between the wire from the Phaze 3 and the wire from the strapped LNB.
Receiver setup with the strapped on 119 LNB
Assuming u put the wire from the Phaze 3 in port #1 and the wire from the strapped LNB in port #2, your setup will be:
91: 22 khz OFF, Diseq #1
110: 22khz ON, Diseq #1
119: 22khz OFF (or ON - doesnt matter), Diseq #2

Can i also get 82 on this dish?
Yes, if you have an additional DTV or DN (circular) LNB laying around, you can strap it to the RIGHT of the 3 existing LNBs (looking from behind the dish). You will now have to use a DiseqC switch to switch between the wire from the Phaze 3 and the wire from the strapped LNB.
Receiver setup with the strapped on 82 LNB
Assuming u put the wire from the Phaze 3 in port #1 and the wire from the strapped LNB in port #3, your setup will be:
91: 22 khz OFF, Diseq #1
110: 22khz ON, Diseq #1
82: 22khz OFF (or ON - doesnt matter), Diseq #3

SKUNKER
12-04-2005, 06:25 AM
very nice thill !

greenhulk2
12-10-2005, 07:37 PM
thill, thank a lots for the details. i ended up using my single lnb dish and attached another lnb on the left...got both 110 and 119 beautifully:D . i gave up on the 3 lnbs one, took too long to try to adjust the dish and couldn't get the channels in correctly either 110 or 119.:no:

thill1951
12-11-2005, 05:12 AM
green..smart man to do the "poorman's dish" as U did (very simple and less frusrating)...much easier than using the phase3 DTV dish (it can be a bear)..congrats on dish,now the rest is easy!...best thing going now is viewsat with autoroll..mo muss,no fuss...little to no receiver programming

huge36
12-18-2005, 02:07 PM
can not open dp files
the download cannot continue error parsing voucher

huge36

sirlance
12-19-2005, 01:45 PM
Help!

I have been reading all the threads and I'm sorry that I still don't get it.
I have 2 sat dish 500. One for 110 and 119 and the other for 61.5. First I thought I had the Dish Pro Twin LNBF and a single. I still may be right but what do I know. So my question is this without climbing on my roof can I hook up a receiver? Oh I forgot to tell you right now I have 4 receivers hooked up in my house.

Please help an old lady

brooklynman4
12-19-2005, 03:53 PM
Can i use a fortech classic on my exsisting dishnetwork setup??? thanks :)

dssfish
12-22-2005, 05:23 PM
What dish do I need?

I want to pick up 110 & 119 with 1 dish and have just 1 wire come off it to my IRD.

I will be buying the Pansat 3500.

Thanks

thill1951
12-22-2005, 06:05 PM
READING goes a long ways!...just about any dish with a TWIN Dish Pro LNB..

quinto555
12-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Hey has anyone tried one of them new Invacom CP/LP LNBF's? Its suppose to work with circular and linear signals. Here is the info if no one has seen them:

Invacom announces another first in LNB development and products, the CP/LP LNBF.

One LNBF provides simultaneous reception of both linear and circular polarized signals with an incredible 0.3dB noise figure and 55dB gain! The Quad output design allows for twin switched output of the linear signals and twin switched output of the circular signals. Receive both types of satellites with one LNBF. No more hassles of off-setting a 2nd LNBF!

Ideal for motorized dishes. Perfect for fixed dish reception of DirecTV and AMC4.

You will not find a more ideal LNBF for the reception of Dish Network and DirecTV in fringe signal areas. An incredible low noise and high gain LNBF for Dish Network and DirecTV. Compare the .3 dB noise figure and 55dB gain typical specification to a standard circular LNBF with a .7-.9 / 55. LO stability is rated a typical +/- 1MHz! This LNBF will out perform any circular DBs / DSS LNBF on the market!

Designed to integrate seamlessly with Dish Network, DirecTV and MPEG2 DVB-S FTA switches and receivers. The circular DSS LO frequency is standard 11250 and linear FSS LO frequency is 10750.
Why buy a CP/LP LNBF?

One LNBF provides reception of all satellites types in a motorized system.
One LNBF provides simultaneous reception of CP and LP satellites in one orbital position for up to 4 receivers.
One LNBF provides reception to both your DVB-S FTA, Dish Network and DirecTV receivers.
Cost is $99 approx.

At that cost I guess you would want to have a dish of atleast 38" and a motor, cause I doubt you would want to have to buy a few to point at all the different sats, as I understand it. Unless the line that says simultaneous reception means you can pull in a few sats pointed at one general direction. If anyone knows or has any experience with these, let us know.

Derwoody



A friend of mine brough a new one at Bay and let me test his Invacom Quad LNB, I can test only the circular polarity as mine 6' Channel Master dish in already pointed at DN110, I use a Pansat 3500 at the same day and same time, just interchange the LNBs and write down the quality %, the following are the result:

Transponder 15:
Terk = 60%
Perfect 10 = 62%
RCA = 47%
ROC = 45%
Invacom = 44%

Tranponder 25:
Terk = 44%
Perfect 10 = 45%
RCA = 30%
ROC = 30%
Invacom = 29%

Tranponder 21:
Terk = 25%
Perfect 10 = 20%
RCA = 10%
ROC = 0%
Invacom = 0%

So, in the real world is very different story, in fringe signal areas as our, 1% is 1% more chance to see or not to see. I can not get any signal on TP from 1 to 10, 13, 17, 22, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30, with any of the above LNB.

Can anybody recommend a better LNB than TERK????

SKUNKER
12-24-2005, 10:08 PM
What dish do I need?

I want to pick up 110 & 119 with 1 dish and have just 1 wire come off it to my IRD.

I will be buying the Pansat 3500.

Thanks
dish500 setup useing dish pro twin/quad lnb will get the job done (one cable)

good luck

thecaveman
12-26-2005, 10:56 AM
HI!

To avoid complications, I always use legacy 500 single lnb.

Twin are trouble maker. You can lose 110 or 119 .

linda74nguyen
01-02-2006, 04:33 AM
Hi! sorry I am just new-because my sister bring for my family a pansat 2500a for enjoy a holiday- but she doesn't give us anything BOOK guide show how to down load and update bin... please if you don't mind can you show us step by step how to install and download... thanks we're appreciate.
please stop use bad language in here! thanks
I did connect between pansat with the cable to PC computer(printer) but I don't know how to intall to pansat software... please help me...ALL MY FAMILY NOW JUST WAIT YOUR HELP..
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IAM A LITTLE GIRL AND DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT COMPUTER..THAT'S WHY CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME STEP BY STEP VERY CLEARLY SO MAY BE CAN I MAKE IT FOR MY FAMILY..THANKS AND HAPPY HOLIDAY TO YOU WITH ALL YOUR FAMILY!!!

SKUNKER
01-02-2006, 04:48 AM
Hi! sorry I am just new-because my sister bring for my family a pansat 2500a for enjoy a holiday- but she doesn't give us anything BOOK guide show how to down load and update bin... please if you don't mind can you show us step by step how to install and download... thanks we're appreciate.
please stop use bad language in here! thanks
I did connect between pansat with the cable to PC computer(printer) but I don't know how to intall to pansat software... please help me...ALL MY FAMILY NOW JUST WAIT YOUR HELP..
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IAM A LITTLE GIRL AND DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT COMPUTER..THAT'S WHY CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME STEP BY STEP VERY CLEARLY SO MAY BE CAN I MAKE IT FOR MY FAMILY..THANKS AND HAPPY HOLIDAY TO YOU WITH ALL YOUR FAMILY!!!
hello little girl !!
have your mama start a new thread because i wont talk to cops or minors:fear:

p.s. do you like doggies ? does your mama ? LOL and do you see the funny man under this ? is that your daddy

linda74nguyen
01-03-2006, 08:59 PM
oh please talk too much... I need help now--- where I can find software for download my receiver 2500a..?

thill1951
01-04-2006, 06:18 AM
Here's the FTA Files area..everything U need is in here...Pansat 2500 files and file loaders

http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=85

newbie911
01-04-2006, 02:47 PM
thank man ! i have trouble after download dont know open in what window, please help ?

thill1951
01-04-2006, 02:56 PM
All the files are .zip (compressed) U must unzip them and then upload them into your receiver..

Use either winzip program (win-zip.com) to get winzip latest version 9.0 or U can use winrar 3.51 program (win-rar.com) to unzip the .zip files

Juaneduardo
01-22-2006, 02:56 PM
hello guys i have a ofset dish andlooking for the best 3.4ghz universal LNB could any one Help me thankyou

bchbumca
01-23-2006, 12:46 PM
ok i`ve tried everything, i was runnig 1010 no troubles, i downloaded and installed 1035....well now i have "Q" ans "S" around 80%+ i show all the info on the bottom of the screen, show name etc.....but no picture or sound???? using viewstat

dlopez4047
02-13-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm reading all this great data, but honestly I'm having some difficulty sorting it all out.

I currently have the Dish 500, using SW64 to feed two Dish receivers. My desire is to add the Pansat 3500. Will the SW64 work, and if so how is it configured. I was told that as lond as you limit to two sats it works. "Second" sat is switched using 22 khz setting?

My 3500 will arrive tomorrow and I'm trying to find out what awaits me.

Thanks
this is the newest info that i got for this matter

bogey219
04-02-2006, 06:28 AM
I have an dss round dish and two lnb's. I'm trying to pick up sats 110 and 119
I'm trying to use my dss receiver (the signal meter) to pick these up. I get a strong signal on one but can't tell if its 110 or 119. Does anyone know of a readme or link that shows how find these sats using the signal meter from a dss receiver? Thanks for any info!

SKUNKER
04-02-2006, 09:24 AM
I have an dss round dish and two lnb's. I'm trying to pick up sats 110 and 119
I'm trying to use my dss receiver (the signal meter) to pick these up. I get a strong signal on one but can't tell if its 110 or 119. Does anyone know of a readme or link that shows how find these sats using the signal meter from a dss receiver? Thanks for any info!
once your locked on , do a switch test with your dn ird,then scroll through sats to check your signal

good luck

thongsai
04-09-2006, 02:41 PM
great pics but i still got a question.. the pics show how we setup the wiring. but wat do we put on the ird? my coolsat dont have a sw64 port #. the highest is sw42.

SKUNKER
04-09-2006, 04:16 PM
great pics but i still got a question.. the pics show how we setup the wiring. but wat do we put on the ird? my coolsat dont have a sw64 port #. the highest is sw42.
it all depends on what lnb and switches (if any) you decide to use.
list your hardware and we can help with the settings on the coolsat .:)

thill1951
04-09-2006, 04:36 PM
A lot of thread HIJACKING here...there is a reason it is not permitted...U can't give anyone an answer without confusing somebody else!

BTW.. U cannot use SW swithes with FTA unless its a coolsat or viewsat...so for those that WANT things, well U CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT U WANT!.......thanks Mick!....there are MANY ways to setup DN and FTA receivers together, BUT U might not like it!....it all depends upon what LNB's, how many, and which DN and which FTA receivers!....U cannot put Chevy parts into a Ford!...and 3 doesn't always fit into 2!

thongsai
04-09-2006, 05:06 PM
sorry about thread jacking, but i look for answers and read more faqs. then i just have more questions than i had
dish 500 legacy & telstar 5 to sw64 to 4 coolsat receivers. my coolsat with latest bin 120 dont have legacy sw64 setting.

i can figure out dish 500 to sw42 to 4 receivers.. but i need 3 sats to 4 receivers. the fta works with legacy switches right?

rollersloft
05-04-2006, 08:04 AM
Would this setup work with Viewsat VS2000 Platinum?

Two dishnetwork dishes (500 and regular) with switch SW64? I am not sure which LNBF but they are 5 years old. It must be Dish Legacy dual (2) on dish 500 and legacy single on 61.5

Thanks in advance.

brobrite
05-11-2006, 04:11 PM
HI, if you have dish pro dual lnbs go to installation menu set lnb type, to dish pro,then put 22khz to on,put diseq to 1`,for echo 7,put positioner setting to usals, than do sat scan echo 7 repeat for 6,8 only difference is diseq is 2 for 6and 8 hope this helps people that want to use dish pro lnnbs this should get all echo star packages the key is you need to power the lnbs with the box PEACE BROBRITE

agibby5
05-14-2006, 09:56 AM
I want to use a DishPro Twin Dual 2 Output LNB as pictured on the 4th post.
DishPro Twin dual 2 uotput, 2 satellites
Will I be able to use this with two Coolsat 5000's? Do I need to use the 4x1 Diseq switch? I have been reading everything I see, but the pictures w/o descriptions don't help much!

Thanks!




On a side note:

A lot of thread HIJACKING here...there is a reason it is not permitted...U can't give anyone an answer without confusing somebody else!


it would be more helpful if people quoted who they were responding to so that readers would know what posts are of relevance to them... and which ones are not, IMO.

I just say this because its hard to follow as an outside reader that is researching a specific problem.

skiptomylou
05-18-2006, 05:18 PM
Lately; there are a lot of members have been asking about what is the requiment for dish to work with FTA reciever, and some confusing about Dish-500 and type of LNB.

I have found some document, and hope it will help to clear thing up. The following is not my work, had found from other site


Thanks to Original Ripper Nice work!!

wow this was the information that i was looking for! thanks awesome info. :beer:

agibby5
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Dish Lagacy Twin Quad(4) output, 2 satellites

I want to use a DishPro Twin Dual 2 Output LNB as pictured on the 4th post.

Will I be able to use this with two Coolsat 5000's? Do I need to use the 4x1 Diseq switch? I have been reading everything I see, but the pictures w/o descriptions don't help much!

Thanks!


CORRECTION: My LNB is exactly the same as the quad legacy picture in post #3. I want to use this to get 110 and 119 on two Coolsat 5000's. Is this possible?

tngeorge12
05-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Sorry in advance if I missed the answer to my question.

I am using a pansat 2700a. My dish is a dp PLUS that came with my sub. I am running the cable from my dish through the dp Plus seperator, then into my receiver.I have a good signal on both 7 and 8.6 sats, but I am only receiving echo 7channels. When I try to search for 8.6 it only finds echo 7 channels. I have not seen any info on the dp PLUS lnbs. Thanks for any info someone has.

doctorampvoncamp
06-07-2006, 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=thill1951]The Phase III oval dish (FAQ)
All about the Phase 3 dish
(made for DTV, has 3 LNBs in same enclosure and built in multiswitch.)
YES, you CAN use this for your FTA setup to get 91 and 110 !

_________________________

I have this new DTV dish on my home and it works good so far. I need to turn on the 22k or the antenna meter stays red, need to turn on the 22k to get it green and working.

I had the Encore Western Movies channel when I had DTV, now with a xtreme vs2000 I cannot find the Western Channel any more. Does anyone know how to get it? What channel is it on and what SAT?

I know IM not pulling all I can with this thing, I would like to make it the best I can. I have four units in my home, what would be the best dish setup for the vs2000?

I cannot use those disq 4x splitters that came with the units, the units work without them. DTV only gave me one of the B band converter module for ka low band -up conversion (inline) for the HD reciever, the other thre did not come with them.

I want to install the best antenna to work with the extreme 2000 units.

Is the DTV, newest big dish worth keeping?

Thanks, doc

cmac420
06-15-2006, 01:17 AM
Please help I have a viewsat extreme with 2 direct tv standard lmb that has been working good . I attempted to hook up a second reciever using a splitter it didnt work when I hooked it back up I now have no signal. What happened need help please

thill1951
06-15-2006, 06:40 AM
U do NOT use splitters with FTA and satellite..U MUST have DUAL LNB's (2 outputs on each LNB) and use 2 disque switches...try rebooting your receivers after rechecking your antenna/LNB/ disque port settings in each receiver..

vips
06-15-2006, 04:56 PM
Can anybody tell me how to catch 121W (Echo9) with Dish-500 dishpro lnbs?
I have Pansat 2700A receiver.

thill1951
06-15-2006, 07:08 PM
U can use a DP linear LNB with a 30 inch dish...U will not get it with the circular LNB's...and if U do, it will be very weak signal and better hope there isn't a cloud in the sky!..

c/p..
Trying to receive linear polarized signals with a circular polarized lnb (antenna) is possible with 3dB/50% loss of signal.

The actual reason why you most likely cannot receive linear signals with circular lnb's is because most all "DSS" circular polarized lnb's are incapable of receiving the frequecies at which linear FSS signals occur:

Standard FSS LNB (11.7-12.2 GHz)
-------->DSS LNB (12.2-12.75 GHz)

JAVIELO
06-16-2006, 11:31 AM
I have 3 receivers (1) ORASAT v5.0 and (2) PANSAT 2700A, and this is my setup: I have (2) dishes, one aiming at Echo 7 (119) and the other at Echo 8 (110), each one has dual Legacy LNBs. For my ORASAT there are two cables coming from the dishes (one from each), into the DiSEq (119 on port #1, and 110 on port #2) and then connected to my receiver. With my (2) PANSATs, there are two cables coming from the dishes, the same as before, except that I connected each cable to a sat splitter (5-23000Mhz, this is NOT a regular TV connection splitter, it is specifically designed to divide digital sat signal, the ones I'm using has 1 IN and 3 OUT ports, cost: around $5.00 each). I have two splitters, one for each cable (119 and 110). From each splitter, one cable goes to a DiSEq switch on PANSAT #1 and the same with PANSAT#2. I always use port #1 for 119 and port #2 for 110 on every DiSEq. I prefer to run cables inside the house, all connections are inside (no splitters or DiSEqs outside). Also, all my DiSEqs are in close proximity to its respective receiver (about, or no more than 3ft apart). :cool: My results: excellent picture quality, much less fading, less scrambled channels and all components are well protected, and if something goes wrong, I don't have to go on top of the roof to fix it. I had this setup for about 8 months with no major flaws, except for the problems that everyone else has encountered (ECM, outdated bins, etc.) My very own personal experience tells me that Legacy LNBS and DiSEq switches (NOT SW21, or similar), are the best for FTA connections.:beer:

da man
06-26-2006, 08:41 PM
ok im have a tough time understanding something i have a pansat 2500a with 1 inlet for an IF input, i am using a dish 500 with DP twin LNBs. one LNB says 110 and the other 119. i cant connect both because i have only 1 input. what can i do to get both 119 and 110 or does the single side get both already? thx in advance for any help.

acs33
06-26-2006, 09:16 PM
ok im have a tough time understanding something i have a pansat 2500a with 1 inlet for an IF input, i am using a dish 500 with DP twin LNBs. one LNB says 110 and the other 119. i cant connect both because i have only 1 input. what can i do to get both 119 and 110 or does the single side get both already? thx in advance for any help.

Dish Network DishPro Twin LNBF: Use it to look at the 110 and 119 orbital locations, using a 20” (or "DISH 500”) dish antenna. The DishPro Twin LNBF can directly connect to two tuner inputs (either two "single tuner receivers” like Dish311, or one "two tuner receiver" like DishPVR 625). The DishPro Twin LNBF can connect to a DishPro DP34 switch, if more receivers, or additional orbital locations, are required in the installation. Circular type.

sounds like you only connect on cable from the lnb

you will have to set the switch for 110 or 119 in your lnb settings

da man
06-27-2006, 05:06 AM
heres my set up on my pansat 2500a box

Satellite: ECHO 6,8(110)
Lnb type-Standard
Lo freq-11250
22khz-OFF
DiseqC-#2
Skew: O
TP:
Positioner-Disable.

Satellite: ECHO 7(119)
Lnb type-Standard
Lo freq-11250
22khz-OFF
DiseqC-#2
Skew: O
TP:
Positioner-Disable

is that really giving me both 110 and 119 that way, because it seems that im missing a bunch of channels not just ppv and hbo. i get like 82%signal and 95% quality.

also thats 1 wire from the left LNB on my dish500 dp twin directly to my pansat 2500a with nothing inbetween it. leaving the right LNB unconnected. the the DP LNBs are also labeled like 110 and 119. my wire connects on the 110LNB. hope that doesnt confuse you anymore. any help is appreciated.

acs33
06-27-2006, 10:06 AM
heres my set up on my pansat 2500a box

Satellite: ECHO 6,8(110)
Lnb type-Standard
Lo freq-11250
22khz-OFF
DiseqC-#2 <<<<<<<<<<<
Skew: O
TP:
Positioner-Disable.

Satellite: ECHO 7(119)
Lnb type-Standard
Lo freq-11250
22khz-OFF
DiseqC-#2<<<<<<<<<<<
Skew: O
TP:
Positioner-Disable

is that really giving me both 110 and 119 that way, because it seems that im missing a bunch of channels not just ppv and hbo. i get like 82%signal and 95% quality.

also thats 1 wire from the left LNB on my dish500 dp twin directly to my pansat 2500a with nothing inbetween it. leaving the right LNB unconnected. the the DP LNBs are also labeled like 110 and 119. my wire connects on the 110LNB. hope that doesnt confuse you anymore. any help is appreciated.

change one of the diseqc to 1

da man
06-27-2006, 01:57 PM
when i goto diseqc 1 to either of them, the one with diseqc1 gets 75%signal and 0% quality. does that mean i need to fine tune it more? also my connection with 1 wire from the left 110LNB is setup the right way then? thx again you've been a real big help :-)

acs33
06-27-2006, 08:16 PM
on the diseqc #1 that gets 75%signal and 0% quality

try diseqc #3 then diseqc #4 and see if that works

nmojica
07-04-2006, 08:21 AM
Hi everybody!,

I'm a new born on this matters, please be patience with me and help me setting up with my first FTA Pansat 2700A box.
I have an antenna of around 3' diameter with an LNB Sharp SHP01.
Can some one tell how to set it up for the Puerto Rico area, Please?.

Thanks,

Nelson

jesseh
08-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Derwoody

I just got the new invacom LNBF 4 days ago off ebay cost me 87.00 hooked it on a 30" dish with a SG2100 motor drive and a VS extreme set it up on 4 birds 97,110,119,121 works great no problems yet.

rogerbacon
08-27-2006, 12:08 PM
Derwoody

I just got the new invacom LNBF 4 days ago off ebay cost me 87.00 hooked it on a 30" dish with a SG2100 motor drive and a VS extreme set it up on 4 birds 97,110,119,121 works great no problems yet.

This sounds like the setup I'm looking for. Let me ask you some questions.
When you say you have it set up on 4 sats you don't mean it can receive all 4 at once though, right? The moter has to realign to pick up each sat, one at a time, right? How long does it take to go from a channel on one sat to a channel on another sat? What kind of 30" dish did you get? Does it matter?

Does this setup need any "switches" or anything like that? Sorry to sound totally ignorant but I'm still learning.

Roger Bacon

aussieboy
08-27-2006, 03:35 PM
I have a similar system, and moving from 123W to 61W Amazonas takes about 45 seconds. That's a long swing. Not often you'd go from one side of the sky to the other ( and expect it to be quick ! ) . If you were to go this route I'd recommend getting a 36" dish ( 90 cm) at a minimum. I'm finding that I'd appreciate more signal strength on some of the linear birds and a 36" dish would give me that.

:-)

lpn9
09-14-2006, 05:19 AM
Jesseh,

I have the same equipment as you, just haven't gotten it all set up yet. I'm trying to figure out my problem of not receiving (what I think) all the channels available on Echostar 7 (119). I've got 310 channels, and most of the network channels are badly pixellated, or won't even come in. My S and Q are above 80% for the first TP, but looking at each TP seperately, I notice that the S & Q drop, and sometimes there is no Q for a few of the TP's. I'm using a switch to select the Linear feed of the LNB, and I have set up the satellite to get the best S and Q while in the antenna setup menu of the Viewsat. Am I missing something? I have not read anywhere that I have to tweak it in for each TP. Dish is 30" x 33" (a bit oval, but not that you can notice). Do I need a circular dish? Do I need a big dish?? (up in Ontario ...44Deg Lat). What did you select for the LNB type in the setup? ( I tried universal, and then tried quad legacy, since I saw that on the Invacom's instruction sheet... found no difference after re-scanning).

Hope you are still checking this thread!!!
Thanks

dec232001
01-15-2007, 08:27 PM
hey guys.........i have fortech life time ultra...and i was watching 61.5w ..on it was working fine and still working great...then i decide to set another disc pointing 110 / 119 w with twin dual lnbf i pointed and i have good strenth of signal...my disc is dish 500 and i have both lnb the old one and the new one which is "dp"...so i remove the 61.5 wire and hook up the 110 / 119.......and as soon i hook up the receiver became blank......on front screen.....there is nothing comes on the front screen....like no power..i tried turning it off and back on but nothing comes on the tv screen or on receivers display....and if i hool up 61.5...i get everything back.....!!!!!! so y is that happnning can any one help me with that?>
...........

tester1957
01-15-2007, 08:56 PM
dec232001.... You are hijacking a 3 month old thread... You should start your own thread in the fortec forum.... and when you do make sure to say what type lnbs you have on your dish 500 right now.... but you will need to configure your receiver for 110 and 119 in order to receive them....

ejdog2000
03-13-2007, 07:36 PM
hello everyone can someone help me plz, am how do you know when you are recieving signal 110 or 119 because my 119 channels is comeing in but but the 110 are not do anyone knows the freq of either 110 or 119 so that i would know when one to put it on so i could pick up 110

lostdanny
03-14-2007, 10:24 PM
try running the 110 straight into the sat box, bypassing the switch. if the 119 is giving a good signal, the 110 is probably lined up also, or at least close.
i would bet that the problem is really in the diseqc switch. they are easy to burn up. good luck.

mlew2
03-16-2007, 10:59 PM
hello everyone can someone help me plz, am how do you know when you are recieving signal 110 or 119 because my 119 channels is comeing in but but the 110 are not do anyone knows the freq of either 110 or 119 so that i would know when one to put it on so i could pick up 110

On 110 you have to change TP from 12224 to 12239 and see if quality comes in.

oldguy99
04-25-2007, 11:55 AM
Hello , I have a viewsat 2000 ultra and a dish pro500 and I need setup info and I'm willing to pay for your time . I cant seem to get more than 68% signal please contact me so we can work this out . Thanks.

mlew2
04-25-2007, 11:58 AM
Hello , I have a viewsat 2000 ultra and a dish pro500 and I need setup info and I'm willing to pay for your time . I cant seem to get more than 68% signal please contact me so we can work this out . Thanks.

no need to pay just move your dish in small increments and check to see if numbers go up allow a couple seconds between moves. It also helps if 2 are working on it

oldguy99
04-25-2007, 02:42 PM
I understand but I'm 60 and it's tuff trying to figure this out.
Thank you .

mlew2
04-25-2007, 03:18 PM
I understand but I'm 60 and it's tuff trying to figure this out.
Thank you .

or you could get a satfinder and go from there LOL

oldguy99
04-30-2007, 08:03 AM
I flashed it using usb and software from viewsat site and latest pgm from this site ......I get to scan chanels and it takes a couple of minutes and finds 48 chanels on echo star 8-10 (dish net) and I hit save but when I leave the setup ,all the recevier says is "no chanels"
any suggestions ? Please:sad:

lostdanny
05-01-2007, 12:21 AM
I flashed it using usb and software from viewsat site and latest pgm from this site ......I get to scan chanels and it takes a couple of minutes and finds 48 chanels on echo star 8-10 (dish net) and I hit save but when I leave the setup ,all the recevier says is "no chanels"
any suggestions ? Please:sad:

are you trying to set this sat box up for the 1st time? if so, please enter all of your antenna settings.
if you are setting it up for the 1st time, did you enter the factory bin, and the opkey.hex? if so,
do a factory reset. then re-enter your antenna settings, if you are getting 8,10 with a dishpro, you should be able to find 7.
give us some info, and we'll help you. its easier if you have someone there to help you get the sats lined up.

oldguy99
05-12-2007, 07:40 AM
Ok , Thank You . Here goes
Sattelite....................echostar 8,10 -110
Lnb...............on
Lnb type...........standard
lnb freq........11250
22K.....................off
TP ........12224
Dis seqc1.0 .....none
motor ..........off
Leg..............none
I get 78 to 80% signal on S meter and never anything on the Q meter
and I downloaded the factory firmware and installed it with my USB flash
Whats a Hex key ?

HDloco
06-11-2007, 02:10 PM
Did a search but didn't see any info here on the dish 1000 units.

I'm assuming that if you were to use a FTA box like the pannie 2500a and the 1000 dish, you would take the separator switch(normally used for dual DVR boxes) out of the path and just run the cable straight in to the 2500? May not pick up anything on 129 since I believe most programming there is HD, but still would pull in 110/129.

Correct?

Vassago
06-11-2007, 02:28 PM
You'd be able to pull in the conus local channels on 129. This list does seem to be a bit outdated.

thill1951
06-11-2007, 03:43 PM
U will need to power the Dish Pro Plus (DPP) LNB's with a DN receiver or power inverter....yes, also no switch or seperator... and make sure U config the receiver dish/antenna settings correctly for all 3 birds...

HDloco
06-12-2007, 09:21 AM
Ahh. So the Pansat alone does not provide power to the LNB's? I must have overlooked that in my reading of late.

Thanks much for the help and image!

HDloco
06-12-2007, 10:23 AM
The DN receiver doesn't have to be a Legacy, does it? A 'Pro' receiver will work to power the LNBs?

thill1951
06-12-2007, 11:32 AM
Any DN receiver is fine...doesn't even have to be subscribed..

joeturn
06-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Any DN receiver is fine...doesn't even have to be subscribed..
Then again I never used a dishnet lnb cause my lnb arm was fitted for a smaller necked fta lnb hmm and I was gonna try one by jury rigging it soon! Now hearing it has to be powered by a DN recievder which I never had throws a kink into my plans&%^*$#

thill1951
06-12-2007, 05:31 PM
U only need to use a DN receiver or power inverter with Dish Pro Plus LNB's, NOT all LNB's...

joeturn
06-12-2007, 06:02 PM
U only need to use a DN receiver or power inverter with Dish Pro Plus LNB's, NOT all LNB's...
I just popped the shell off one like is pictured for 148. Now I have to wait till wife gets off tv before I can fire it up! I've been wanting to compare it to my old Primestar, so soon I'll have a report...Got to check the voltage before connecting it to that lnb... I'm still convinced that 203 bin is some how burning up lnbs,c13,c14&and transistors on the 2700s with the horizontal voltage being shifted to the vertical side, might have gotten my primestar??I've always had poor quality on it.The vnus channels on 91 fade about noon every day#$&^%

Well I hooked it up and my Quallity is spectacular once again I dought any of the vnus channels will ever fade again and my voltage was 13v on vertical but I have an original 2700a about when the rar files came about my quality went south I thought it was due to a new run of coax. however I believe now is was the file that toasted my primestar lnb?? Had to change all lnb settings to 11250 except E9/13???

stevotbay
06-21-2007, 09:05 PM
I have a disnet20inch dish with 2 - legacy dual lnb running into a switch then into a coolsat5000 i am trying to get 110 & 119.when i go to settings it says i have 84% signal on both sats. but if i get sat 110 channels it says 84% and they come in fine but most on 119 say scrambled channel, and some say no or bad signal. Does anyone know what im doing wrong???? please help if you do thanx in advance

joeturn
06-22-2007, 05:44 AM
I have a disnet20inch dish with 2 - legacy dual lnb running into a switch then into a coolsat5000 i am trying to get 110 & 119.when i go to settings it says i have 84% signal on both sats. but if i get sat 110 channels it says 84% and they come in fine but most on 119 say scrambled channel, and some say no or bad signal. Does anyone know what im doing wrong???? please help if you do thanx in advance
what is coolsat?

HDloco
06-22-2007, 08:41 AM
U will need to power the Dish Pro Plus (DPP) LNB's with a DN receiver or power inverter....yes, also no switch or seperator... and make sure U config the receiver dish/antenna settings correctly for all 3 birds...

I have been trying to get a 'quality' reading using a setup similar to the image posted but with no luck. Only getting about 30% on the top bar. Pannie 2500a and a 500 sat with only the 110 and 119 in the loop. One cable directly from one output to a Pro style subbed box and the other cable going directly to the pannie.

I'm thinking somehow the pannie is not getting enough voltage to it thru the cable to see the sats, based on what I've been reading? Should the cable(to the pannie) have 13v on it coming from the LNB? This 2500a was a working unit 6 months ago. Do I have to flash it with the current .bin file first for it to see sats and channels?

springmist
06-25-2007, 10:52 AM
I currently have 2 dishes (one for the dishnet 119 and 110 sats, and the other for dishnet 148 sat) and one receiver (coolsat 6000 premuim). I need to add a second receiver to plug to a seperate TV in different room. The 119/110 dish has dual LNB, and the 148 dish has a single LNB.

Can someone help point me or send a diagram to show what I need to add or replace what I have now to support this simple setup. I searched the web a lot, but I found only things related to connecting several dishes and several receivers together.

What the simplest or minumum I need to buy/add/replace what I have ?
Thanks a lot

HDloco
06-25-2007, 12:19 PM
"One cable directly from one output to a Pro style subbed box and the other cable going directly to the pannie."

DOH!! The guy who hooked up the cable had it going into the 'Ant In' and not the 'IF In'. :no: All is good now.

Achilles1240BC
07-03-2007, 05:34 PM
Here is better DishPro information, after you down load this attachment, and read thought it, you should know your DP LNB very well:yes:

This set up is for Dishnet receiver only, not FTA set up, it is to help you unserstanding how DP type LNB WORK


MAS
Thanks , that really help me finally understand. So a Dish Pro Quad is what I need for 2 receivers.

kybob
07-07-2007, 09:37 AM
Will this lnb work on a Viewsat Extreme

kybob
07-07-2007, 09:57 AM
Will this work on a viewsat extreme on a dish 500 set up

thill1951
07-07-2007, 10:25 AM
It will work on any receiver...just if U run 3 sats, U will need to power the LNB's by ALSO adding a DN receiver pluggeg in (but no sub is needed)...with just 2 sats, U MAY not ned the DN receiver...but Viewsats are noted for needing additional power for DPP LNB's..

I recommend a DP Twin LNB and a DP dual for 3 sats...NOT DPP..but either will work..

kybob
07-07-2007, 11:09 AM
My problem is that i am trying to aline the dish and cannot get the DP Plus to lock on to 119 or 110

thill1951
07-07-2007, 12:07 PM
then U should read the dish alignment section and tips...

Hazzard
07-30-2007, 08:11 AM
What LNB and Dish do I need to receive the 118.7 Bird in Florida. I will be using a HD Receiver, not sure which one????Thanks:unsure:

thill1951
07-30-2007, 10:52 AM
ANIK F3 is the one found on the new Dish500+ and Dish1000+ dishes...

or these LNB's on a 30 inch dish...LNB type = standard, freq 10750

c/p

1. Eagle Aspen DTVGD (dual) & DTVGS (single)
2. CB2008 (dual) & CE1000 (single)
3. Microyal FTA-118 & KW-118 (both dual)

I've read positive results from options 1 and 2, Microyal's site says those two lnbfs are "specifically for DISHNET 118.8" (option 3)...

ognam
08-22-2007, 12:35 AM
I have a Pansat 2700A, Dish 500 with DishPro Twin LNB...

1) Can I use this equipment to receive both 110 & 119 sats?

2) Do I run one cable from Dishpro Twin LNB directly to the Pansat, or do I run two cables from LNB to a 4x1 diseqc switch?

3) In the "antenna setup" on the rcvr...Diseqc setting for 119 = #1 and for 110= #2... OR ... is it 119 = #2 and 110 =#1.

4) Does the 22KHz setting even used?

5) Do I have to get a channel list and load it OR can I just blind scan both sats?

I keep reading and reading...the more I read the more confused I get... I would be very grateful for any help...Thank you.

thill1951
08-22-2007, 06:18 AM
1....yes...DP TWIN is a great LNB for satellite 9 degrees apart....DN 110-119, or B*V 82-91

2...yes..1 cable to each RECEIVER that U may have, can have 2 receivers, if U want

3...119=1, 110=2

4...OFF setting

5...no need for channel lists, U can do scans instead

datniggacheski
08-27-2007, 02:34 PM
I keep reading and reading...the more I read the more confused I get... I would be very grateful for any help...Thank you.

ME TOOOOOO...lol

junk007
08-31-2007, 07:55 AM
My equipement consists of:
1 DN Dish \ Dish Quad LNB
1 BEV Dish \Dual LNB
Have one Pansat 2700a + Viewsat Extreme

How do I get them together or what possible connections do I have?
On the viewsat I just need DN.

Question:
What other equipements do I need?

I have been reading also but getting more and more confused, can someone help me?

astyles
09-06-2007, 11:58 AM
I am currently having a problem with a Dish Pro PLUS LNB. After doing research I believe that I have hooked into the WRONG connection on the satellite. Here is some text I found on the subject:

Another nice feature of DishPro Plus is it will work with legacy receivers as long there is at least one other DP compatible receiver in the system. The DPP Twin LNB (right) has three coax connections. The two on the left connect to receivers or DPP distribution switches (DPP44). The single connection on the right connects to another DP single satellite LNB for reception of 61.5, 148 or 129. The DPP Twin LNB is the standard LNB for the DISH 1000.


Link (http://www.dbsinstall.com/Dish_network/Dish_network_Dish_Pro.asp)

In other words- Don't plug the line that goes to your receiver into the right-most connector!!

bystander
11-16-2007, 06:25 PM
What kind of dish & LNB I need for HD receiver?

h.hog
01-23-2008, 11:04 PM
I would like to take the time to just say hello to every body out there

jtdrago
05-13-2008, 04:32 PM
Hi all. Just made the swith from a Coolsat 5k to a Satopia ST1100UT. I am trying to set up the 110 & 119 sats, but I am having no luck (only get 1 ppv & missing a few other premium movie channels). Can someone recommend the correct settings? I have a DishPro Quad LNB, Dish500 dish, & no DiSEqC switch. Also I just noticed that the sat cable is only connected to one LNB (119). Is that right? I mean, it was working ok before with Coolsat! I am reading some of the guides that are available on the forum right now, but any extra help will be appreciated. Thanks!!

If you need additional info from my setup, please let me know.

URAQT
07-15-2008, 09:32 PM
hello,
I just bough a coolsat 7100 micro and ran into some trouble setting it up, i believe i have the correct bin (NorW v168) but i am unsure of my dish, its a pretty old pegasus dish i think from direct tv, will this work? and what settings should i set my receiver to, (coolsat), also im trying to receive signal from echostar 8,10, why am i not getting a "quality" reading when im getting a signal strength of ~84

lw800
07-16-2008, 06:47 AM
hi i have a coolsat 5000 with a single LNB linear, 10.750mhz LO freq -- would it be good for DN birds pick up? I've so far got some true "FTA" channels (pic & audio) but all others show "scramble channel" on screen. i tried all different "latest" BIN files.

my disk is 30" size.

any thought?

lw800
07-16-2008, 09:27 PM
whoa thanks a thousand to sp0iler, i downloaded the BIN 178, unzipped it, loaded to my CS5k via RS232 cable, did a factory reset, auto channel scan, set the receiver time, now i got all the channels on W119.

thanks a bunch for the folks here.... enjoy.

Here's my setting:
30" offset dish
DTV32+ LNB (it's circularly polarized, LO f=11.250ghz)
Coolsat 5000 platinum receiver
dish aimed at W119 bird
signal level = 97%
signal qual = 95%

it took me almost 10days to figure it out ...

daytripper42
08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Thanks so much. I finally got it. Daytripper42

daytripper42
08-21-2008, 08:28 PM
You guys are super great. Have been trying for approx 2 months to get this connected. Again thanks for all your help and patience. Will refer many to you. Daytripper42

ronbaseball
09-09-2008, 07:52 AM
hello
i have a sonicview 360 premier with dishpro twin dual2 outputs. i get echostar8 with signal 99 and quality 99,but i can't get echo7. do you what the problem is?

ron

ronbaseball
09-09-2008, 08:00 AM
hello
i have a sonicview 360 premier with dishpro twin dual2 outputs. i get echostar8 with signal 99 and quality 99,but i can't get echo7. do you what the problem is?

ron

thill1951
09-11-2008, 06:18 AM
echo 7 = 119 sat

echo 8.10 = 110 sat

either your sat dish is not aligned/aimed correctly ...xxx.dishpointer.com

or you need to input your antenna/dish settings into the receiver...119-port 1, 110-port 2, type ocs-dp, freq 11260, etc...and SCAN both sats

bhindi
09-18-2008, 09:31 AM
how i run 61.5 dish network asnd bev 91 one one reciver both dishes working when i connect diseq switch both are not work pls help me

hashmi
09-18-2008, 11:01 PM
I just got a captive work 800 i have uploaded the new software however i have no clue on the settings and i have no pic ?

ftauser73
10-09-2008, 10:57 PM
Hello Mas, I am just getting started with FTA.... Your guide to dish is very informative. Couple of questions I have is:

Is it possible to use a motor with the super dish or the dish 500? and can you get the same effect of using it with a 33" dish you indicated in the guide?

Is it possible to use the Invacom qph-031 that Derwoody mentioned with the super dish or the dish 500?
I am planning to convert my dish network to FTA and would really appreciate any info on this or direct me to where I can find it. I did't find a direct answer to this anywhere else on the forum.

Thanks in advance..

ftauser73

siemreap
10-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Please need help for my friend , he just buy new LNB from MaxxElectronics 2 of LNB but not sure to for Echo 110.8.6 and Bev. Here the LNB Code #
1 Qsat 88-1010 Digital Circular Polarity Daul LNBF RF:12.20/12.70GHz IF:950/1450MHz LO:11.25GHz Gain:55dB Noise Figure: 0.4dB.
2 Qsat 88-1012 Circular/Linear Daul LNB RF : 11.7/12.75GHz IF:950/2000MHz LO:10.75GHz
Gain:55db Noise Figure:0.4dB. So , which ones to use for 110, 8.6 Echo. and which one for Bev.? . He said he has tried one for 110.8.6 but scan no PPv channel got bout 100 channel. set up with 10750/1075 SINGLE STACK. Thanks. Oct.13/2008

DJMBS
10-13-2008, 10:06 PM
All Bev and most Dish use #1....that is a circularly-polarized LNB for DSS signals... Local osc 11250,

the second one is for Linear sats... like 97, and others, not nearly as common as #1...Local osc is 10750

Set #1 up for Bev and Dish as LNB Type Standard...LO 11250, etc.. if you need more info, ask.....

siemreap
10-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Sir
You talking about 97 is international the second one like a Globecast ? . or :DG 25 with
Pansat 3500 .
Thank again .



[ QUOTE=DJMBS;824447]All Bev and most Dish use #1....that is a circularly-polarized LNB for DSS signals... Local osc 11250,

the second one is for Linear sats... like 97, and others, not nearly as common as #1...Local osc is 10750

Set #1 up for Bev and Dish as LNB Type Standard...LO 11250, etc.. if you need more info, ask.....[/QUOTE]

DJMBS
10-13-2008, 11:36 PM
Sir
You talking about 97 is international the second one like a Globecast ? . or :DG 25 with
Pansat 3500 .
Thank again .



[ QUOTE=DJMBS;824447]All Bev and most Dish use #1....that is a circularly-polarized LNB for DSS signals... Local osc 11250,

the second one is for Linear sats... like 97, and others, not nearly as common as #1...Local osc is 10750

Set #1 up for Bev and Dish as LNB Type Standard...LO 11250, etc.. if you need more info, ask.....[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY what I was referring to....

All Bell Tv, and most Dishnet, 110/119, 61.5, 72.7, 129, and 148 all use the Circular polarized LNB (#1)

Linear birds like Dish 105, Globecast 97, etc, use Linear LNB - #2

Dishnet 118 uses a totally unique LNB, Linear frequencies but circularly polarized....not meant to confuse you.....

aldrin
10-19-2008, 09:15 AM
need support on the pansat 2700 do you have the active code for me ..

aldrin

bored4life
10-24-2008, 12:57 PM
need support on the pansat 2700 do you have the active code for me ..

aldrin

Sure absolutely, call 1-800-GET-DISH.

gocha
12-03-2008, 06:11 PM
Hey,

Thanks you for this useful post. The images are pretty helpful too! I appreciate.

sonic29
12-13-2008, 09:44 PM
hey there fellas!! what is the best LNB type to get the 118.7? will a linear ku band LNBF do the job?

sand6632
01-01-2009, 04:34 PM
I am a newbie hope someone can answer this. Purchased a viewsat ultra 2000 receiver, and have a direct tv antenna. Will this work or do I need to get a dishnet antenna.

yerushalayim
02-21-2009, 01:49 AM
Lately; there are a lot of members have been asking about what is the requiment for dish to work with FTA reciever, and some confusing about Dish-500 and type of LNB.

I have found some document, and hope it will help to clear thing up. The following is not my work, had found from other site


Thanks to Original Ripper Nice work!!
Thank you mas for the guide

ftdriver
07-05-2009, 07:03 PM
Hello, I didn't see a dish exactly like mine in Mas's guide. Here are some pics. I think it may be the Dish Network DishPro Twin LNBF that I've seen mentioned here. Please let me know if it is and if so what it's capable of. I'll be nosing around the rest of the forums in the meantime.

Thanks

Mike30
07-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Yea. Dish 500. Two DishPro LNBs. What's your question again? Not capable of anything without receiver. What do you have?

ftdriver
07-05-2009, 07:45 PM
Nothing, Mike. I've got that dish and some gray coax. No boxes no recievers no nothing. Could this be hooked up for some decoded goodness and what should I do next?


Thanks for the speedy reply!:D

Mike30
07-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Nothing, Mike. I've got that dish and some gray coax. No boxes no recievers no nothing. Could this be hooked up for some decoded goodness and what should I do next?


Thanks for the speedy reply!:D

Yes. You can call Dish network, they are running promo now.
And they will install everything.

ftdriver
07-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Are you saying that this dish is no good for Testing? Or have I offended you in some way. Were I looking for Dish's information I would have called direct. I sure didn't mean to offend you.

Mike30
07-05-2009, 08:17 PM
Are you saying that this dish is no good for Testing? Or have I offended you in some way. Were I looking for Dish's information I would have called direct. I sure didn't mean to offend you.

No. No offence here. Just the truth. Dish by itself means nothing. It isn't good for FTA. You need at least 30" dish to get FTA programming.
And FTA is for people who make it a real hobby. If you need recreational TV, then call Dish, they have minimal programing for I believe $9.99 a month.:D

lise_spider
07-13-2009, 04:43 PM
hello have a internet dish,pan,from HUGHES,it is with one lnb to recieve and transmit it is eliptical 39 inches across,the back of the pan says CHANNEL MASTER, i would like to try it out on FTA i have tried to get GALAXCY 18 123 at 223 degrees 33 deg elevation and no scew but no luck the LNBis unknown and i know it is no good for dish/bell does anyone have info to share THANKS

Mike30
07-13-2009, 05:14 PM
hello have a internet dish,pan,from HUGHES,it is with one lnb to recieve and transmit it is eliptical 39 inches across,the back of the pan says CHANNEL MASTER, i would like to try it out on FTA i have tried to get GALAXCY 18 123 at 223 degrees 33 deg elevation and no scew but no luck the LNBis unknown and i know it is no good for dish/bell does anyone have info to share THANKS

You need linear LNB. Google Ivacom.
What kind of receiver are you trying to use for FTA?

el bandido
07-13-2009, 05:22 PM
hello have a internet dish,pan,from HUGHES,it is with one lnb to recieve and transmit it is eliptical 39 inches across,the back of the pan says CHANNEL MASTER, i would like to try it out on FTA i have tried to get GALAXCY 18 123 at 223 degrees 33 deg elevation and no scew but no luck the LNBis unknown and i know it is no good for dish/bell does anyone have info to share THANKS
This could get lengthy...
You may need to start a thread on this problem. EB

dyos480
08-10-2009, 06:58 PM
I found, I am getting all of the channels with the Legacy Twin connected directly to my viewsat. Thought we had to use Dish pro or add switch, but seems to be working for me.


I believe I have a dish 500 with a twin lnb. The model number on it is BS1D1UP201 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=BS1D1UP201M&aq=f&oq=&aqi=). I believe it is the legacy but I'm not 100% sure. Anyways, I just ordered the Sonicview 360 Elite does anyone know if this is going to be compatible?

I'm also considering adding the Dish 129W satellite later so that I can get HD. At which time I would also purchase the Sonicview 8000HD. To get this setup to work I was just going to buy another Dish500 and aim it at the 129W satellite. I'm assuming I can tie this is with an SW21 to my HD receiver. Does anyone know if this setup will work? Or recommendations for my specific situation?

jackk
09-09-2009, 09:33 AM
After you down load this attachment, and read thought it, you should know your DP LNB very well

consabores
11-08-2009, 05:40 PM
thank you so much for your support, always there. good job.

lise_spider
11-10-2009, 05:17 PM
This could get lengthy...
You may need to start a thread on this problem. EB

check frequency it is 11.75-12.25 i think check it out the frequency is way to high for the 10.75 you are looking for i think