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Nintendo Master
10-27-2004, 10:34 AM
I just heard from a good source (a Dish Network employee) that a email went out to all Dish Call Center Reps stating a ECM will be coming down very soon and if customers call in about a 153 nag to get their info and forward it onto the proper dept. I don't think this is a looping ecm hopefully beacuse of the 153 nag, and I don't even know if it is going to happen, but my contact @ Dish is a good friend and I just want everyone to be aware of what's going on. Take this how you like, could be nothing???

Ctech
10-27-2004, 11:13 AM
thanks for the tip bud will see what happens I hope something comes down I would like to see if tsop lock works I did yesterday on 7100 :yes: wonder if it will be a ppv hit this time its been awhile :wacko:

rainbow99
10-27-2004, 01:07 PM
I would say you have a good source 153 here

Ctech
10-27-2004, 01:15 PM
I would say you have a good source 153 here


you get hit ?post what your testing that helps alot

rainbow99
10-27-2004, 01:17 PM
atmega with lock on a 301-13 and yes 153 nag

Ctech
10-27-2004, 01:19 PM
still going here with atmega on a 3900

lectronicman
10-27-2004, 01:21 PM
Just had a customer call that said he got hit(153) with 3900 at current f/w with rom2-no blocker.

I'm running 301-013 / atmega / no lock.....still ok so far.

fatboytrav
10-27-2004, 01:26 PM
still going strong here

fatboytrav
10-27-2004, 01:29 PM
ps thank for info

Schmederling
10-27-2004, 01:32 PM
Will this effect this cards or just the receiver? I have a lock but am worried about the card.

Ctech
10-27-2004, 01:33 PM
153 is for the receiver

fatboytrav
10-27-2004, 01:36 PM
has any one got hit yet? just wondering

Hazzard
10-27-2004, 01:53 PM
Hit here 153 running 301-010 with Atmega.

g85
10-27-2004, 01:56 PM
I just got hit with 153....running a 3900 with rom2

steelie-slayer
10-27-2004, 01:57 PM
I got 153 nag on my atmega and my magic card on two 4900 ird's. They are both out.

This is my first expireince with an ecm from dish. I have saved both original tsops for my ird's.

I take it that I will have to reprogram my tsop back to the original image to fix the ird and then wait for a new file to be posted.

Correct me if I am wrong.

fitzchivary
10-27-2004, 02:04 PM
rom 2 all current
ird 310-10 current f/w
no blocker wide open ppv

hit with 153 3:30 cst


rom 10 i did for friend is still up at this time waiting to see if his goes down
his is rom 10 with blocker open ppv 2800 ird

HOG
10-27-2004, 02:14 PM
Got Reciever Nag, Serious Problem With Reciever at 14:00
Running private software and gonna install digital lock
now......Better late than never......

rainbow99
10-27-2004, 02:22 PM
was hit with nag on a locked 301-13 running atmega.rewrote card with different cam and is going again for how long we will see.

troc
10-27-2004, 02:39 PM
I was hit with error 153,i pulled atmega out and put it back in and did a check switch
and i have been running for the past 10 minutes so far.

steelie-slayer
10-27-2004, 02:42 PM
For what it is worth I did a search for "tsop repair" and I came across only one thread where bobthetech said all you had to do was erase sector SA5. Welll I had my jtag and ird hooked up so I did that.

I have a model 4700 updated to a 4900 via software.

Anyway I then plugged it back in and connected the sat cable and then waited for about 5 minutes.

For some reason my ird will not power on unless a card is inserted into the unit. I noticed this after the first time I took a software update so I am assuming this is a protective measure used by dish. I use a locked 383 and within 5 minutes I got the "access card is not the right one for this ird" nag so I turned off the power and then inserted the magic card back in with no changes at all and everything is back up :lol: I better not hold my breath how long it lasts is anyones guess.


I have another 4700 upgraded to a 4900 that I run an atmega on and I will try this also.

What I am wondering is that I did some more searches while waiting for the ird to update and I came across this sticky from mas http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=27303&highlight=tsop+ecm

In this sticky the sector to erase is stated as SA30 for my ird but I rushed into it and used SA5 andI am up an d running with the magiccard as I have been.

Maybe this might help someone who has the same unit as me. I am going to try the SA sector eras on my other 4700 ird that I run with the atmega and lpost if that works also.

:edit: well magiccard down again with 153 nag.

I am done repairing anything now until more info comes around. This is just a rotating ecm and any effort is just wasted at this point.

I did the same fix on my other i bt I erased sector SA30 I got sound and picture again wit the same atmega code b I canno change channels or get into the mnu at all anymore on that ird.

Ctech
10-27-2004, 02:50 PM
3900 with latest software with atmega wide open still going also no digital locks
7100 with latest software running emulation wide open ppv's still going with the mic lock

as the ird's software is upgraded (changed)so is the location for the sector erase not on all models but some

fatboytrav
10-27-2004, 02:55 PM
still going strong with 2700 with atmega and strong with 2800 rom 10

Mas
10-27-2004, 03:29 PM
Anyone that got hit with 153 Nag, do you have the IRD tsop lock, or tsop softlock?

Ctech
10-27-2004, 03:38 PM
seen reports of people with hardware locks haveing issues blue screens and ird reseting its self over and over

steelie-slayer
10-27-2004, 03:40 PM
Are we going to have to wait for a new script or is there something we can do to block this ecm from hitting the ird.


I know how to repair the ird but I need a blocker for this :lol:

Mas
10-27-2004, 03:42 PM
I have 2700 IRD Atmega,and 3100 rom 10 with out any lock install, and PPV both are stll fine.

Mas
10-27-2004, 03:58 PM
The ECM targets PPV strings outside of a tight range.

Simply fix your receivers according to //http://www.bellexpress.vu/quickfix.html and redo your cards with the limited Tier Patch.

Ctech
10-27-2004, 04:23 PM
are try the ppv patch on my sig that should be workin fine

newbie09
10-27-2004, 04:44 PM
Running strong with my private software.

Tomico-ind
10-27-2004, 04:50 PM
running strong here to, no problems here with private.

dwm3568
10-27-2004, 04:50 PM
same here in the buckeye. dont ya love it

Bobthetech
10-27-2004, 04:51 PM
When I got home tonight my receiver location ID was 00000001. I didn't have the PPV channels programmed on my card so that is not why it was hit. My buddy's Magic Card is down as well.

Hazzard
10-27-2004, 05:09 PM
I'm running a 301-010, I erased the tsop at1FE00000 using wall. Then I flash it with my original flash that I made a copy of when my IRD was new. Put in stream without card until green light went out. Programed card (Rom3) with same cam but without PPV or PORN RUNNING JUST FINE ONE HOUR NOW! YOU MUST USE BLOCKER!

Alfi
10-27-2004, 05:12 PM
Internal EMU went 153
Erease a sector and lasted 30 min. ( SA30 for a 3900 )
Changed the Cam and have been good for a few hours so far.

chuck
10-27-2004, 05:20 PM
No problems here yet....301.010 with Rom3..2700 with Rom2...3900 with Rom3....blockers on the Rom3s...nothing on the Rom2s.

I have noticed that when this stuff comes down I am usually the last one to go out...it was the same with the HU and the H...dont know why just figured maybe it was my location. They probably hit Florida last to give the brains a chance to figure out the fix then they hit us. It may have something to do with the way our voting situation went in the 2000 election. They figure they can leave us til last because we are old and senile...:D

Hazzard
10-27-2004, 05:30 PM
Chuck, you must get a different signal in your par of the Sunshine State in this part of the state I was hi at 4:50 today. But I'm running fine now with plastic or atmega....:yes::hat::hat: :beer: :beer:

dbDan
10-27-2004, 05:44 PM
It was the lunar eclipse affecting it...lmao.

teckerd
10-27-2004, 05:46 PM
I have been using the rom10 fix from ctechs signature and both my 301-13 single and my 501 both went 153. I have erased the tsops and just now need a fix whenever one is available.

Hazzard
10-27-2004, 05:54 PM
Tackerd, all you need to do is reprogram your card and leave off the PPV and porn until we can sort thru it...Yes you did need to reprogrom your Tsop..We wil have an answer soon......

teckerd
10-27-2004, 05:55 PM
Thanks, that is what makes this site the only one I visit. Everybody is willing to help even though I dont have much to offer.

dbDan
10-27-2004, 06:01 PM
Since there is plenty of speculation and I was joking around earlier. Pay attention to the 08 ppv tier if you are using it. Also look at the combination between 0B tiers and camid.

teckerd
10-27-2004, 06:28 PM
dbDan, my ird went to 153 the second I was reading your post. I thought I had removed the ppvs from my card. I am not sure what you mean about the 0B tiers and camid.

tekstar
10-27-2004, 06:39 PM
2 out of 3 got hit all 301 the one that survived did not have the soft lock patched to the tsop. Seams as if they targeted the soft lock and or software from the mass emails that I have started seeing. It is a shame the site had great hu software in the day and seamed to have a good start on dish.....

sensation87
10-27-2004, 06:48 PM
I got 153 nag on my atmega and my magic card on two 4900 ird's. They are both out.

This is my first expireince with an ecm from dish. I have saved both original tsops for my ird's.

I take it that I will have to reprogram my tsop back to the original image to fix the ird and then wait for a new file to be posted.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Don't erase the whole TSOP. Just erase SA30 using jkeys and restream the IRD for about 15-30min. you will know when your IRD is updated. Sys Info screen will appear if you are streaming your IRD without card.

dwm3568
10-27-2004, 07:06 PM
just like an energizer, still going.

teckerd
10-27-2004, 07:09 PM
dwm3568, are we suppossed to guess what you are doing to still be going or are you just trying to rub it in?

dwm3568
10-27-2004, 07:23 PM
no man just letting testers know that no hits in the buckeye. What im using ( best priv support on the net) 4 monthst and havent been touched

Ctech
10-27-2004, 07:25 PM
dwm3568, are we suppossed to guess what you are doing to still be going or are you just trying to rub it in?

if you removed the ppv's and still getting hit try scammers for another camid

chuck
10-27-2004, 07:43 PM
Still going here with my own basic stuff...nothing private...if any one needs it I will post in files area...PPV and all channels open

steelhead101
10-27-2004, 07:46 PM
went down error153 opt got tagged c020 but buddy still up different program no locks on either machine

Hondo
10-27-2004, 07:56 PM
My magic card just went to previews only at 2150 CDT. Crud.

FOLLOW UP: Did some reading...simply removed magic card from IRD, re-inserted and am back up all running fine.

301.13 with AR105-C Autoreset Lock.

Thanks to Fear The Intruder...you sold me some good stuff. It's nice to be watching TV through a major ECM when so many people got jammed up.

bigpappa801
10-27-2004, 08:05 PM
Still going strong over here in the rocky mountains with open script for 3 months porn went down about a week ago (damn) so I rewrote a ppv patch applyed to the same script with a blocker and going strong.....just for FYI

BALLS4U
10-27-2004, 08:14 PM
I have been using the rom10 fix from ctechs signature and both my 301-13 single and my 501 both went 153. I have erased the tsops and just now need a fix whenever one is available.

What sector did you flash in your single 301-13????

dssjunky
10-27-2004, 08:19 PM
dp 301-013 with MC got hit with location id 000001

teckerd
10-27-2004, 08:20 PM
I flashed the Flash 1 Sector 49. I have the single tsop. When I redo my card and remove the ppv it get channels for about 15 minutes or so then goes to 153. I am using the same cam id I have been using since May.

Ctech
10-27-2004, 08:36 PM
if you get hit every 15 minutes you need a new cam id try scammers
once you find a good cam try the ppv patch in my sig

Bobthetech
10-27-2004, 09:08 PM
My 3900 and Rom-3 card was hit when I got home, I restored it, it worked for about half an hour and went belly up again. I watched a couple Stargate SG-1 shows on DVD with my grandson, took a shower, and now I just tried a different blocker on the card. Has been working for about 20 minutes now. I am going to bed in a few miutes so I won't really know anything else until morning.

joel
10-27-2004, 09:35 PM
mmmmmm

Shark Attack
10-27-2004, 10:45 PM
MY 3900 WITH ROM 3 IS OUT
RECEIVER 00000001 IN SA30 he he he he he...que fácil la pusistes.
El PANSAT está muerto de la risa.....

Joel :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Que fácil la pusistes.Vayan a estudiar Machine Language tontos.
Excúsame Charlie pero son unos Pariguayos.

Me muero de la risa!!!!! :lol:

Joel, de donde eres?? :beer:

bronc4294x4
10-28-2004, 06:31 AM
I am leaning toward it is a cam id problem.
reason: I have 4- 301-013's running with atmega's and all are fine(rom3 with same camid and same program).
A friend has 1-301-013 running with rom3(different camid then mine but same program and ppv string) he got hit 153.
1- 301-010 same as 301-013 above(rom3).
1-301-010 same program as rom3's and amega's but on a rom10 and still going strong.
So this tells me it is a camid problem. Have been going for 3 months with the program on these test cards. everything wide open.
just my 2 cents

lectronicman
10-28-2004, 07:27 AM
Running 301.010 clones.
Everything identical except ppv.

Wide open ppv = HIT....(EVERY 20 MINUTES)
Tight ppv = NOT HOT.

tmt223
10-28-2004, 10:11 AM
i got hit yesterday on 7100 and 2800,both went down,the cards is ok.

Hacktor
10-28-2004, 01:05 PM
up with all the chanells open with Atmega 128 and public file IRD 301-10

Hacktor...


P.d: De donde son par de vatos chistosos? :fear:

Hazzard
10-28-2004, 01:11 PM
I too am up with everything, I was up within a hour after the ECM but no PPV. I am running a 301-010 with ATmega or plastic both running!!!!:hat::beer::beer:

Ctech
10-28-2004, 01:48 PM
i got hit yesterday on 7100 and 2800,both went down,the cards is ok.
did you have tsop locks on 7100?

tmt223
10-28-2004, 01:52 PM
nope,bad luck

fatboytrav
10-28-2004, 01:57 PM
up with all the chanells open with Atmega 128 and still going strong sure it was a cam id hit?

art10
10-28-2004, 02:26 PM
hit is a pvv and cam id. need to tighten up pvv and find good cam id :)

fatboytrav
10-28-2004, 02:32 PM
still going strong here

joel
10-28-2004, 08:54 PM
mmmmmmm

Bobthetech
10-28-2004, 08:56 PM
I think there must be more than one or two things they are hitting. I do not have PPV on my Rom-3 card. Keep in mind I am not a big TV watcher so the PPV stuff does not bother me at all. I have a legit CAM ID because I subscribe to Dish Network. I did some experimenting and figured out it was my blocker that was causing the problem. Once I changed the blocker, it has been working just fine. That's well over 24 hours ago.

Shark Attack
10-28-2004, 09:47 PM
shark attack : Te puedo decir que viví en tu PAIS
en Santurce por los alrededores de Loiza Station.No te digo
la calle por que los de inmigración son mas inteligentes
que los de Charlie.
Mi país está del lado izquierdo del tuyo...pero
no lo digo politicamente.
No fuí a Vietnam por pura casualidad.
Espero oir (leer) de Ud. pronto.

Pero el PANSAT sigue muerto de la risa.....

Joel :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

Wow, que mundo tan chico!! Yo naci en Rio Piedras, criado en Santurce desde bebe. A lo que le llamaban "el fanguito" ya no queda nada. Todavia tengo casa en Carolina. La vida da tantas vueltas......vivo en Indiana ahora.
Un placer compartir conversasion contigo, espero que nos mantengamos comunicados,
Shark Attack :beer: :beer:

Ctech
10-28-2004, 09:59 PM
hey joel y tiburón agradables verle aquí otra vez :yes:

pcdoc_joy
10-29-2004, 07:39 PM
Here's what I got.

ECM hit my 2700/3700/2800 Rom2 wide open PPV, no blocker of course didn't needed for Rom2. Anyway, today I change card from Rom2 to Rom3 w/blocker, created the new PPV tiers, new PK. So, far its has been running past 4-5 hrs.

I also have 2 301.010 Rom10 rev.A23 w/blocker, new Pk, created PPV tiers and it has not get hit, Running strong like a champ... :)

fatboytrav
10-29-2004, 07:50 PM
well tell you the truth i never did get hit on my rom 10 or my atmega plus my rom 3 still going

joel
10-29-2004, 10:15 PM
mmmmm

dbDan
10-29-2004, 10:26 PM
I just heard from a good source (a Dish Network employee) that a email went out to all Dish Call Center Reps stating a ECM will be coming down very soon and if customers call in about a 153 nag to get their info and forward it onto the proper dept. I don't think this is a looping ecm hopefully beacuse of the 153 nag, and I don't even know if it is going to happen, but my contact @ Dish is a good friend and I just want everyone to be aware of what's going on. Take this how you like, could be nothing???
I'm more curious of how this info came out and you posting it a couple of hours before it came to pass. That's what's interesting. :yes:

Ctech
10-30-2004, 05:59 AM
Nintendo Master thanks for the info :beer: You nailed you should be your buddy a six pack for that info

gregralston
10-30-2004, 09:09 AM
I'm still up and running so far on my Rom 2 & 301.013 reciever. I'm using a file from on here and it was the first time i've ever programmed a card. I set it up with PPV's off. Is there anything else I can do to minimize the chance of getting hit? I thought the ROM 2's were a little harder to knock out?

chuck
10-30-2004, 04:25 PM
I wouldnt worry too much about your Rom2 getting hit. They are old cards and Dish doesnt mess with them much. Just keep on watchin TV :D

syelton1
11-05-2004, 08:09 PM
got ECMed on 27th can't get anything to work for more than 2 hours at best
anybody got any ideas?

bronc4294x4
11-05-2004, 08:50 PM
It is probably your camid.
But, it could be overlapping tiers or ppv string.
Need to test to see what it is.
1. reprogram card with current camid, new tiers with only top60, 120 and 180, and blocker.

If you still get hit try changing camid and program with top60, 120 & 180 and blocker.

Once you get it to stay up longer then 2-4 hours, you can try adding more channels.

Then add ppv string last.

I had same problem when I started. It is just a process of elimination to see what is causing the hit to occur.

Best is IF you have a friend or family member that has DN to use their camid. Eliminates one of the variables.

syelton1
11-06-2004, 09:36 AM
Ok I got it to work last night with everything on except PPV using same cam ID
Cam ID is a friends subbed cam, 2 IRD's stayed up all night and is still going strong with no PPV at all.
Thanx for your help folks, any idea when this ECM is going to stop?

steelie-slayer
11-06-2004, 09:48 AM
Ok I got it to work last night with everything on except PPV using same cam ID
Cam ID is a friends subbed cam, 2 IRD's stayed up all night and is still going strong with no PPV at all.
Thanx for your help folks, any idea when this ECM is going to stop?


I have been up with everything the same day the ecm came down and I am still going strong.

I use an atmega and a magiccard. I have a rom 3 rev381 and a progger but I haven't even begun to mess with the actual card yet.

syelton1
11-06-2004, 09:58 AM
I'm using one chip EMU, would a blocker on my bin file help, haven't been running one, just wondering if it would help?

Ctech
11-06-2004, 11:03 AM
I'm using one chip EMU, would a blocker on my bin file help, haven't been running one, just wondering if it would help?


dont need blocker :no: you would just be adding another target
everything is running great ppv's wide open on all dish cards and atmega's and emu

jettypark
11-06-2004, 08:46 PM
running rom 10 with no blocker, and rom3 with blocker...eveything wipe open, and havent had anything happen....both dish 3700...sub cam id on both ;)

big Pop
12-06-2004, 02:29 PM
I got hit yesterday at 11:20 PM testing Atmega with rom10 cam ID and my receiver (DP 301-10) address went to '000 000 000 0001'
Did not have any PPV's but I had all the tiers.

Nintendo Master
12-06-2004, 02:57 PM
Try a different cam id.

Mas
12-06-2004, 03:13 PM
Git to be the camid, use the one came with atmegaedit6.2 it good.

big Pop
12-07-2004, 11:15 AM
Hey, guys!

I think it was the cam id :grr: , I used a rom 10 image and cam id. For some reason it didn’t like it…even though MikeNet sais should work with Rom10 immage.
Since I just switched to Atmegas I didn’t know that a bad cam id can cause as big damage as an ECM to your IRD
Now I know! :D

Just did sector erase and let it update for ½ hr in the stream, then put a Rom3 cam id, generated by scammer.
Now For 24 hrs my Atmega runs strong like a well oiled Swiss watch! :yes:
Just curious – the newest cardless IRD (322) with dual tuner – what card ( build in) are they using –
cam ID starts with S 00 88 XXX-XX
I have one still subbed.
Will the Atmega accept this kind of a cam id?


Thanx.