I would like info about the "Nexus-S" computer card. What do I need dose it work on all dishes. How good is this system ?
TIA

I would like info about the "Nexus-S" computer card. What do I need dose it work on all dishes. How good is this system ?
TIA
im not sure about a card nexus i thought i seen a loader by that name
i only posted because i seen no one else did
and i feel for you
you got more info a web page or something
let me know

im not sure about a card nexus i thought i seen a loader by that name
i only posted because i seen no one else did
and i feel for you
you got more info a web page or something
let me know


please dont post links I posted plenty of info for you to read below
rules number 4 is
4. DO NOT post URL's unless they are links to other message boards or are obviously not advertisement efforts. Information is the key. This forum is for learning and communicating with other users - NOT promoting lame websites. Linking to other forum threads is OK. Linking to files or ads is NOT.

I think he is talking about freeto air systems
sorry I can help out I have never tried it out
but here some stuff to check out



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Posted this in another dvb startup forum guess it would be good to post it here also as backup.



I'll be less of a lurker today and explain a bit and try not to get too wordy. Once you start delving into this area you'll find things can be made really simple and easy, or very complicated. How far you can go really depends on how driven you are and how much cash you have to fuel your hobby.



Below are just quick facts do not take this as gospel "that's all there is" or "this all works 100%". I'll start at the pc end of my configuration and work my way out...

Hardware - PCI-Card there are many available, I think the two most popular in North America at this point are Twinhan 1020 and Hauppage Nexus-s:
Twinhan 1020 $80-150us
Pros - I own one and regularly cruise forums like this and let people know how it's working for me. Output from twinhan card can be slaved to a reciever, voltage output can drive a small motorized dish.
Cons - No Mpeg decoder, "weaker" tuner, Lame/in-accurate software signal meter
Other - USB remoted bundled with some cards I've never slaved a dish reciever to/through my twinhan, a voltage block would probably required to protect my twinhan card, it is something I could/should try, but I've no need as the second output of my dual output dish lnb is wired and available at my desk for a standard reciever as well.

Hauppage Nexus-s $225-300us
Pros - Mpeg decode onboard, supposedly better tuner and better picture quality from mpeg onboard, audio and video out
Cons - I don't own one... Card may not drive a small motorized dish(Unverified), No second output for slaved recievers(or perhaps some do not have it? conflicting specs on different websites unverified)
Other - Remote is not usb, uses connector on Tuner card (unverified)

Neither of the above cards has a cam module though models of that nature exist, I'm not sure many people are using them sucessfully here in the Americas. I'm sure they are bigger in Europe where people can actually subscribe a cam with service for legal reception of different scrambled services with these setups. There are other cards that are cheaper and in use Broadlogic, and Skystar 1 or 2 models(I think the 2 model is similar but not exactly the twinhan 1020).

Harware - motors - are not required, but they can greatly increase the available satellites you can see and there-by increase the number of channels you can view. Motors should be sized to the dish you will use. A small dish 100-120cm motor costs $125-175us. These motors support Usals which is a direct aiming standard, the dish is told "point at satellite X" and it uses Sat "x" known location to move the dish to the right position. Most motors store 30 or 60 defined positions, these are stored in eeprom in the motor, usals does not store positions in the motor, it calculates the angle the motor turns to based on your location in relation to the satellite, then tells the motor to turn to that correct angle. Usals relies on information downloaded from the web mainly at Satcodx. the motors are usually powered in-line through the coax cable from your card/receiver to the LNB.


Hardware - switching - mainly uses disecq switching, but 22khz switches(such as dtv 3x4) also work, legacy dish switches such as sw21, sw44, sw64 do not work. Dishnetwork "dishpro" switches work but require some customization to the software configuration. This area can be complicated and takes more research than other areas as it affects your entire system. Some diseqc switch models/brands do not seem to work. Read up on forums and find out what is working for others with the parts you have or will buy. Diseqc switches are fairly cheap. I use a simple 1x4 diseqc 2 switch with 2 lnb's connected and 2 empty ports left for further expansion. i've had both genpix and spacelab diseqc switches, the spacelab worked the genpix did not.

Becuase of complicted switching and the fact I have quite a few receivers on an existing legacy switched system, I chose to have two separate satellite setups in my house. I could probably simplify down to 1 if I had to, though I'd have to get dishpro lnb's and switches. One setup is dedicated to my PCI tuning and a Regular subscription dish Setup for the tv's in my home.

Hardware - Dish - I have an old primstar 40" oval dish refitted with 2 lnb's mounted on my motor, on a pole mounted on the eve of my roof. The primestar has been refit to hang on the motor as the original pole mount was too large and too heavy for me to keep/modify to work how I wanted. You can use an existing dish setup with the right hardware, all it takes is sufficient signal to dish size for your area. If you get dish/bev on an 18" dish then you can get the same using a tuner card. If you motorize, or want more from the other satellites, they are weaker and require a larger dish. For satellite broadcasts in much of north america a 100-120cm dish is sufficient to tune most KU band satellites. If you want C-Band as well a much larger 7-12' dish is required.

Hardware - LNB - Generally speaking three types of lnb's are used in america, I have 2 on my motorized dish, I have a KU band universal and a KU Band DBs or circular lnb.
1. C-Band(large dish 8-12 foot or bigger)
2. KU-Universal - standard used worldwide there are many models with mostly similar specs(horizontal/vetical polarity)
3. KU-Circular - Dish network, Directtv and Bell expressvu special lnb's (clockwise and counter-clockwise polarity)
3b. KU-Circular dishpro - Dish network new diseqc compatible lnb/switches (clockwise and counter-clockwise polarity bandstacked differently and require slightly different info be used when scanning satellites for channels)

Software - there are several software packages working right now though Progdvb and Mytheatre seem to be the two main packages. But ther are about 6-12 other packages in various states of development/deployment. The options and discussion/configuration would take longer than this already long post. There is display, record and even time shifiting capabiltiy in the popular packages, turning your pc into a pvr/dvr. Again a word of caution, not all software works well with all hardware, do some matching when designing your setup. Mytheatre is working awesome with Twinhan, I've not had to look much further, only reals downside is Dihnet's epg is not currently supported in mytheatre. The Dish epg is supportedin Progdvb, but that doesn not work as well with twinhan cards.

So this all begs the question "How's it working for me?". I must say it works great! I've got Just too many satellites I can see programming on now. Being driven/consumed by this hobby, I still want more, This setup can still expand further and support Big dishes 7-12' and C-band, unfortunately that will not happen in my current residence.

Some limitations:
PCI tuner cards Will not/can not, tune Directtv regardless of lnb/switch.

HDTV - There are seveal limitations here, HDTV signal requires considerable horsepower to decode and display. I cannot currently direct-view either due to software or hardware limitations(p4 2.26ghz on 533fsb, 1gb ram gf4 ti4200 128mb). I do not believe this is a permanent issue I think at some point I will have HDTV working on my setup either through software fixes or through better tuning of my configuration on my part. I can however record and replay hdtv programming at this point. Another limitation is Dishnetwork new standard for broadcast known as 8psk no card currently avilable can tune and display this broadcast standard.

I would like info about the "Nexus-S" computer card. What do I need dose it work on all dishes. How good is this system ?
TIA

Heres a C/P from one of the many dealers out there for this product,

Description:

The WinTV-DVB-s and WinTV-Nexus-s are designed for receiving, decoding and displaying Digital Video Broadcasts (DVB) via satellite on a standard Personal Computer. They include a hardware MPEG decoder and a composite video output, so the digital TV program can be displayed both on the PC monitor and an external TV set.

The WinTV-DVB-s and WinTV-Nexus-s can receive Free-to-View channels without the need for any specialised additional equipment (see compatibility below). However, to receive 'subscriber' or 'pay per view' channels, an optional module (Common Interface Module) will be required, together with a decryption card, available, for a fee, from the provider of these channels.
Note: though DVB-s is the transmission specification for satellite pay-TV services in North America, such as Direct-TV, neither the WinTV-Nexus nor the WinTV-DVB cannot receive these broadcasts due to proprietary encryption schemes used.

Used with a MODEM, it can facilitate connection to a satellite ISP (Internet Service Provider) to achieve high speed data services.



Compatibility:

To use the WinTV-DVB-s card, you will need the following:
PC with Pentium Processor, (Pentium 266MHz or higher recommended)
Free bus-master PCI Socket
32 MB RAM minimum
PCI or AGP Graphic card, running at a minimum resolution of 800 x 600 Pixel, in either 'High Colour' (16 Bit) or 'True Colour' (24 or 32 Bit)
Active speaker or soundcard/speaker combination
CD-ROM Drive (only required for software installation)
Microsoft Windows 95 / 98 / 2000
DirectX 5 or higher
Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.01 or higher
In addition, you need a connection to a digital ('combo' or 'high-band') satellite system. If this system incorporates a switch-box, this switch box needs to be DiSEqC (Digital Satellite Equipment Control) compatible. The physical connection on the WinTV-DVB-s card is a single F-Connector.


Connectors on the WinTV-DVB-s and WinTV-nexus-s PCI cards

LNB - F-Connector socket Signal input from your digital satellite system (check 'Compatibility' section, above).
Loop through - F-Connector socket Output for additional satellite receivers, e.g. for analogue Satellite-TV-card. This is only supported by the following systems: D9 and LNBP (K) designated with LNBP 11 SP, LNBP 12SP, LNBP 13 SP, LNBK 11 SP and LNBK 13 SP.
Audio line-out - Stereo 3.5mm jack socket Analogue audio output signal, to connect to line-in of soundcard or active speakers. ·Composite video - Phono (RCA) socket Composite video output signal, for connection to additional analogue devices such as TV or VCR.
J3 - Internal audio socket CD-ROM Audio output, for connection to the internal port of soundcard (CD-ROM Audio in). This is required if the Audio line-out connector is not being used.
J4 - Internal audio socket CD-ROM Audio input, for connection to the analogue Audio-output of CD-ROM-drive. This is required if the Audio line-out connector is not being used and the sound card has only one internal CD-ROM Audio in socket, which is already being used.
J2 and J8 - Reserved for future expansion ·CI - Port for connection to the Common Interface Module Common Interface Module is a standard to enable the reception of 'subscriber' or 'pay per view' channels.


DVB Data Services

With the WinTV-DVB-s Data Application, you can use any IP-based DVB data services. These may include Web/News-Broadcast Services (Web-Casting), Multicast-Streaming Services or File Transfer Services.

Data broadcasts being received by the WinTV-DVB-s card will be treated in the same manner as if received by a network card. This is why the reception of arbitrary IP-based DVB data services is possible, as is integration with the Windows network architecture, and thus, compatibility to other Internet applications.

Because the WinTV-DVB-s card doesn't transmit data out onto a 'normal' network but by means of DVB data broadcasting, some specific additional parameters need to be set. The WinTV-DVB-s Data Application allows the administration of these many potential services and the setting of any necessary related parameters. Like our other applications, to make the WinTV-DVB-s Data Application easier to understand, most user adjustable settings incorporate tool-tips, which appear after the mouse pointer stays over them for approximately one second.

In order to use the WinTV-DVB-s card as a network card, the front-end settings and filter must be configured. Under the front-end settings is the input section of the WinTV-DVB-s card: consisting of tuner, demodulator, LNB voltage supply control and DiSEqC Signal level. Services A Service is, in the context of the WinTV-DVB-s card, a data application (and a set of any necessary parameters to receive a DVB data service).

With the selection of a service, all adjustments are made in such a way that the appropriate DVB data service can be used. The parameters needed for the use of a DVB data service (frequency, symbol rate, polarisation, PID, IP or MAC address) should be given to you by the provider of the service.

The Common INTERFACE enables the receipt of Pay TV. It is connected by a flat cable (on the right) with the I-CLink of the WinTV-Nexus-s card.

Specifications:


Common INTERFACE decoding module for the DVB standard
Card location places a PCMCIA II to the accommodation of two I-CModules to the order

Inserts into a single PCI slot (serves only for the mounting plate)

Jumper for adjustment at 3v / 5V of I-CModules

Support for the following Condition Access Modules
Viaccess---------------------Tested and working
Cryptoworks------------------Tested and working
Irdeto------------------------Tested and working
Seca-------------------------Tested and working with ab Version 1.23b
Betacrypt--------------------Tested and working
PowerVu----------------------NOT Tested
Mediaguard-------------------NOT Tested
Conax------------------------Tested and working
Nagravision-------------------Tested and working with ab Version 1.23b
Eurocrypt (M, S2)-------------NOT Tested
Allcam------------------------Tested and working

I hope this helps answer any questions you have regarding this product, I quick search produced wonders of info on it for me in my quest to help you, my fellow tester. In return for my helpfullness if you fill I have done so its always greatly apreciated to throw some REP points my way as a way of saying thanks. I encourage all users to apply this returned gesture to all testers that help you to learn in this great hobby. ;)


Good Day,
Digmonte

That should keep reading for a bit bud

yes it will work for everything but DTV and the system is very good...

please dont post links I posted plenty of info for you to read below
rules number 4 is
4. DO NOT post URL's unless they are links to other message boards or are obviously not advertisement efforts. Information is the key. This forum is for learning and communicating with other users - NOT promoting lame websites. Linking to other forum threads is OK. Linking to files or ads is NOT.
dude maybe i should of said p.m. me with the link to know what you were
talking about?like i said i only posted because no one else did!
i do not want to break any rules knowingly sorry....................
skunker :mad:

no worries bud I edited his post :)
just showing some respect to one of the site sponsor :D

Thanks everyone for your info. I know all the stats was looking for info on programing it. From what I have read this should be the best tester on the market. Works of everything but direct tv. Very serprised there is not more on this site about it. Will keep you informed if it works like it should.

I think he is talking about freeto air systems
sorry I can help out I have never tried it out
but here some stuff to check out



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted this in another dvb startup forum guess it would be good to post it here also as backup.



I'll be less of a lurker today and explain a bit and try not to get too wordy. Once you start delving into this area you'll find things can be made really simple and easy, or very complicated. How far you can go really depends on how driven you are and how much cash you have to fuel your hobby.



Below are just quick facts do not take this as gospel "that's all there is" or "this all works 100%". I'll start at the pc end of my configuration and work my way out...

Hardware - PCI-Card there are many available, I think the two most popular in North America at this point are Twinhan 1020 and Hauppage Nexus-s:
Twinhan 1020 $80-150us
Pros - I own one and regularly cruise forums like this and let people know how it's working for me. Output from twinhan card can be slaved to a reciever, voltage output can drive a small motorized dish.
Cons - No Mpeg decoder, "weaker" tuner, Lame/in-accurate software signal meter
Other - USB remoted bundled with some cards I've never slaved a dish reciever to/through my twinhan, a voltage block would probably required to protect my twinhan card, it is something I could/should try, but I've no need as the second output of my dual output dish lnb is wired and available at my desk for a standard reciever as well.

Hauppage Nexus-s $225-300us
Pros - Mpeg decode onboard, supposedly better tuner and better picture quality from mpeg onboard, audio and video out
Cons - I don't own one... Card may not drive a small motorized dish(Unverified), No second output for slaved recievers(or perhaps some do not have it? conflicting specs on different websites unverified)
Other - Remote is not usb, uses connector on Tuner card (unverified)

Neither of the above cards has a cam module though models of that nature exist, I'm not sure many people are using them sucessfully here in the Americas. I'm sure they are bigger in Europe where people can actually subscribe a cam with service for legal reception of different scrambled services with these setups. There are other cards that are cheaper and in use Broadlogic, and Skystar 1 or 2 models(I think the 2 model is similar but not exactly the twinhan 1020).

Harware - motors - are not required, but they can greatly increase the available satellites you can see and there-by increase the number of channels you can view. Motors should be sized to the dish you will use. A small dish 100-120cm motor costs $125-175us. These motors support Usals which is a direct aiming standard, the dish is told "point at satellite X" and it uses Sat "x" known location to move the dish to the right position. Most motors store 30 or 60 defined positions, these are stored in eeprom in the motor, usals does not store positions in the motor, it calculates the angle the motor turns to based on your location in relation to the satellite, then tells the motor to turn to that correct angle. Usals relies on information downloaded from the web mainly at Satcodx. the motors are usually powered in-line through the coax cable from your card/receiver to the LNB.


Hardware - switching - mainly uses disecq switching, but 22khz switches(such as dtv 3x4) also work, legacy dish switches such as sw21, sw44, sw64 do not work. Dishnetwork "dishpro" switches work but require some customization to the software configuration. This area can be complicated and takes more research than other areas as it affects your entire system. Some diseqc switch models/brands do not seem to work. Read up on forums and find out what is working for others with the parts you have or will buy. Diseqc switches are fairly cheap. I use a simple 1x4 diseqc 2 switch with 2 lnb's connected and 2 empty ports left for further expansion. i've had both genpix and spacelab diseqc switches, the spacelab worked the genpix did not.

Becuase of complicted switching and the fact I have quite a few receivers on an existing legacy switched system, I chose to have two separate satellite setups in my house. I could probably simplify down to 1 if I had to, though I'd have to get dishpro lnb's and switches. One setup is dedicated to my PCI tuning and a Regular subscription dish Setup for the tv's in my home.

Hardware - Dish - I have an old primstar 40" oval dish refitted with 2 lnb's mounted on my motor, on a pole mounted on the eve of my roof. The primestar has been refit to hang on the motor as the original pole mount was too large and too heavy for me to keep/modify to work how I wanted. You can use an existing dish setup with the right hardware, all it takes is sufficient signal to dish size for your area. If you get dish/bev on an 18" dish then you can get the same using a tuner card. If you motorize, or want more from the other satellites, they are weaker and require a larger dish. For satellite broadcasts in much of north america a 100-120cm dish is sufficient to tune most KU band satellites. If you want C-Band as well a much larger 7-12' dish is required.

Hardware - LNB - Generally speaking three types of lnb's are used in america, I have 2 on my motorized dish, I have a KU band universal and a KU Band DBs or circular lnb.
1. C-Band(large dish 8-12 foot or bigger)
2. KU-Universal - standard used worldwide there are many models with mostly similar specs(horizontal/vetical polarity)
3. KU-Circular - Dish network, Directtv and Bell expressvu special lnb's (clockwise and counter-clockwise polarity)
3b. KU-Circular dishpro - Dish network new diseqc compatible lnb/switches (clockwise and counter-clockwise polarity bandstacked differently and require slightly different info be used when scanning satellites for channels)

Software - there are several software packages working right now though Progdvb and Mytheatre seem to be the two main packages. But ther are about 6-12 other packages in various states of development/deployment. The options and discussion/configuration would take longer than this already long post. There is display, record and even time shifiting capabiltiy in the popular packages, turning your pc into a pvr/dvr. Again a word of caution, not all software works well with all hardware, do some matching when designing your setup. Mytheatre is working awesome with Twinhan, I've not had to look much further, only reals downside is Dihnet's epg is not currently supported in mytheatre. The Dish epg is supportedin Progdvb, but that doesn not work as well with twinhan cards.

So this all begs the question "How's it working for me?". I must say it works great! I've got Just too many satellites I can see programming on now. Being driven/consumed by this hobby, I still want more, This setup can still expand further and support Big dishes 7-12' and C-band, unfortunately that will not happen in my current residence.

Some limitations:
PCI tuner cards Will not/can not, tune Directtv regardless of lnb/switch.

HDTV - There are seveal limitations here, HDTV signal requires considerable horsepower to decode and display. I cannot currently direct-view either due to software or hardware limitations(p4 2.26ghz on 533fsb, 1gb ram gf4 ti4200 128mb). I do not believe this is a permanent issue I think at some point I will have HDTV working on my setup either through software fixes or through better tuning of my configuration on my part. I can however record and replay hdtv programming at this point. Another limitation is Dishnetwork new standard for broadcast known as 8psk no card currently avilable can tune and display this broadcast standard.

So from what you say you think with the Nexus-s I should use Progdvb. I still have my big dish on the side of my house from way back when. If I use the big dish I should get a better reseption then the small one for EU birds
Thanks again for all you help I am sure using the computer will be the best way to go.