thiis sucks need the fix

thiis sucks need the fix

I had the same problem till i unplugged the reciever then everything worked fine again, hope it helps

It really is down guys, we have to wait for a fix

what kind of fta do you have mine hasent went down since i got it

what kind of fta do you have mine hasent went down since i got it
Yours working I hope so for U but I doubt till there's fix.

My bb down tooo

Yup.. BB's are down..

I pray to god this is just a silly key change..

What is the symptom of it being down? I just got a Pansat 2500a that I'm trying to set up today. I can get the DISH "Help" channel, but all $ channels say "Scrambled or bad channel". Is that the symptom?

(just trying to make sure my setup is correct so when the fix comes out I can plug-n-play)

yep thats it

here is a C&P from dsshelper, it looks like they changed the second decrypt key, lets see how good the support is now that that lots more people are testing FTA

C&P from by Me :yes: at 8:45 8-12-04

August 12, 2004 - Dish Network, Bell ExpressVu, and FTA Blacking Out
We are receiving a very large number of reports regarding Dish Network and Bell ExpressVu systems with nothing but black screen, and no audio. It is being reported that audio/video is mostly black but occasionally some are able to receive video for a very short period of time before it blacks out again. Whatever the issue is it does not seem to be effecting the receivers or cards at this time.

We are also receiving reports that FTA receivers have also been effected by changes in the datastream speed by Dish Network and Bell ExpressVu. More to come as it is known.

Update:
We now have a better understanding of what is currently going on. It appears that Bell ExpressVu and Dish Network have issued a change of the 2nd decrypt key, PK0. Some blockers do not allow the parity keys to roll causing loss of audio/video. A change of the 2nd Decrypt Key, Parity Key 0 will resolve blackouts on Dish Network and Bell ExpressVu systems. A patch is available in the file archives.

This appears to be mostly an attempt on FTA receivers, and is being reported as an ECM similar to that of the 4/23 FTA ECM. FTA users will have to wait for an updated flash to repair thier receivers. Those files will be available in the forums as soon as they are released.

C&P by Me :yes: 8:45 8-12-04

Here is the reason for the FTA to go down http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=30088

my pansat keeps showing "data beind downloaded". Could this also be the sign that the EMM is in the datastream?

Hello

What FTA receivers are everyone using? I looked in the file download area and it does seem apparent to me. Pansat2500a here.

What is the symptom of it being down? I just got a Pansat 2500a that I'm trying to set up today. I can get the DISH "Help" channel, but all $ channels say "Scrambled or bad channel". Is that the symptom?

(just trying to make sure my setup is correct so when the fix comes out I can plug-n-play)
There are some channels that are working & some locals. :)

i am using 2300a, I am not sure if the new patch to fix this emm will support my pansat 2300a :S

[EDIT] Forget it - this won't work. The old key was unused before, and thus, not in the BIN at all.

>2nd $07 decrypt key's changed to
>PK0: 6B8F023B5F66C04FCFC89C2072E064
>verify key:1E FF 75 45 4C FD 2D 93

Anyone know what the original PK0 and verify key were? If so, we could probably hex edit a bin to get things working again.

Thanks to Sparky for the info

C&P

First a little history... Our FTA receivers use a ROM3 image, (a copy of PART of the standard DN smartcard decoding software). The problem is that the image has only the bare minimum sections of the smartcard software necessary to decode the signal. In the prior ECM a few months ago, DN exploited this weakness and put into service a feature on their cards that was never used before. That feature was a second Nagra provider ID together with seperate keys for that new ID. The smartcard had that capability although never used before, our ROM3 image left that part out because it was never used and not necessary to decode the signal. The fix that came out added the missing feature to the ROM3 image and we were back in business.

THIS TIME..... DN has done nearly the same thing, exploited a feature, never previously used, that always existed on the real smartcard but is not supported in our ROM3 image. That feature is a second set of parity keys, decrypt and verify. On the real card these were all set to 00's and never used before today. Now these keys are active and have values present on the smartcard. There already is a fix for the real smartcard, verified working. The feature was always on the real card. Our FTA receivers ROM3 image is a different matter.

A fix will require a new AL7 software (ROM3 image) with the second set of parity keys feature added. Last time it took several weeks for the fix to come out, hopefully this time will be quicker. I wonder what happened to all the people that were working on disassembling the AL7 code last time?

This ECM is nearly identical in nature to the last one, even the symptoms are identical, and the fix will have to be in the same form as well.

this sux!!! my ird's are coming monday and i wont be able to do shit with them

useing the B.B. on fri the 13th, i am getting only FTA channels as of 10;38 detroit time, and that is on the B ev. only !!!! lets all not panic a new fix will be out !!!!

I'm looking for instructions on how I could manually changet the keys on my Pansat 2500A or a link to where I could download the newest flash file.

Also... anyone know if this has anything to do with Nagravision2 ?

Thanks in advance!
-VictorHK

Got this from friend, It surely won't hurt your receiver but I have not tried it myself.

Maybe this can hold us over until the new PFF 4 bin comes out with the proper fixes...

To fix the ST 1000 receiver. As far as I know this only work to get B e V not Charlie I have not tried Charlie yet as I don’t use it.
1. Delete all channels.
2. Power off receiver then unplug, leave off for 10 minutes
3. Plug in and turn on receiver.
4. Re flash with factory 5.01 after re flash unit will say good power off in the back then power back on.
5. Unplug for ten minutes
6. Plug back in re flash with pff-401
7. delete all channels.
8. then re scan just the B e V channels and watch TV.

Time

even though it sucks!

Got this from friend, It surely won't hurt your receiver but I have not tried it myself.

Maybe this can hold us over until the new PFF 4 bin comes out with the proper fixes...

To fix the ST 1000 receiver. As far as I know this only work to get B e V not Charlie I have not tried Charlie yet as I don’t use it.
1. Delete all channels.
2. Power off receiver then unplug, leave off for 10 minutes
3. Plug in and turn on receiver.
4. Re flash with factory 5.01 after re flash unit will say good power off in the back then power back on.
5. Unplug for ten minutes
6. Plug back in re flash with pff-401
7. delete all channels.
8. then re scan just the B e V channels and watch TV.

Time

I did not reflash, I just Deleted all Bev (sat 91) channels, powered down with just the rear switch for 30 sec. and then did a blind scan and most of my Bev channels are back. Still no ppv but I am getting porn and alot more channels than i was getting before.

Try it again people there running...all porn and a few ppv's working also don't have to do a thing.

you guys are talking about 91 bev.

I guess they were just fixing sat?

you guys are talking about 91 bev.

I guess they were just fixing sat?
Yes.....Bev is working fine except for PPV's Was looking for a fix at another site when I read it was up and running again ...They said it was screwing up some subbed cards so they dropped the ecm...........

What about the 110 and 119 channels?

What about the 110 and 119 channels?

Still get "downloading data" nag.

turn power off on back for five min's,then turn back on,you will get most of the 110 channel's....


time will tell....


vanner63...

keys will not update in a pansat receiver!!need to reflash with new bin which isnt out yet,just stay calm and give it some time and a neww flash will be out

What is the symptom of it being down? I just got a Pansat 2500a that I'm trying to set up today. I can get the DISH "Help" channel, but all $ channels say "Scrambled or bad channel". Is that the symptom?

(just trying to make sure my setup is correct so when the fix comes out I can plug-n-play)

first make sure that you are on correct birds 110-119 after that go to
sat 110 or 119
set Lnb=Standard
lnb local-freq=11250
22khz=off
Diseqc= 1 or 2 where you bird is at 110;119 if usingdual lnb
tp=1
positioner settings= off
sat scan=all
110 & 119 must be set the same with the only diff is the diseqc one must be
#1 the other #2

go to parental control
go down to second pin entter 0000 at next window that show up go down to
keycode function set it to on so channels can be descramble.

After that you should see all chann but the ones that are down at the moment by ECM.

Good Luck & have fun.