letshack32
07-28-2004, 08:35 PM
im thinking about buying a pansat 2500 from ebay will it come with a dish if not can i use a dave dish to hook up to it and does it really work need feed back from everyone who has seen it work. thanks
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View Full Version : will a dave dish work letshack32 07-28-2004, 08:35 PM im thinking about buying a pansat 2500 from ebay will it come with a dish if not can i use a dave dish to hook up to it and does it really work need feed back from everyone who has seen it work. thanks coolestjoe 07-28-2004, 09:58 PM im thinking about buying a pansat 2500 from ebay will it come with a dish if not can i use a dave dish to hook up to it and does it really work need feed back from everyone who has seen it work. thanks I have some pansats setup using a dish500, para todos oval, and a round dave with a extra lnb strapped to the side to pickup 119. cool :cool: MADDOG47 07-29-2004, 04:29 AM im thinking about buying a pansat 2500 from ebay will it come with a dish if not can i use a dave dish to hook up to it and does it really work need feed back from everyone who has seen it work. thanks :huh: Frist you need to ask the person you are buying from, if they are selling the dish with it ? and as the DTV dish, i am using the BB and the dave dish is working for me, i have it pointed at the bev. satt. and i am also useing a dish500 for the 110, and 119 works great !!! :yes: letshack32 07-29-2004, 06:48 AM cool thanks do you get ppv showtimes,hbos,encores,playboy,usa,and more? coolestjoe 07-29-2004, 08:14 AM cool thanks do you get ppv showtimes,hbos,encores,playboy,usa,and more? yes, u get them all. everything u get with dave u get with charlie except sunday ticket. But bev will have that soon! cool :cool: Porky69 07-29-2004, 10:32 AM This might sound like a stupid question to some but I am new to the Dish and FTA testing, I have a dish 500 pointed at 110 and 119 and I have an old Dave dish pointed at 61.5 and I'm using an Atmega card for Charlie, it works good, but I want to test a Pansat 2500, I know i need to get a Desq to connect them up, but what software do I use for the Pansat or where can I go to get instructions on Flashing a Pansat unit, Thanks in Advance.. BTW What is Bev? NEO66 07-29-2004, 01:53 PM BTW What is Bev? Bell Express View grazzzy 07-29-2004, 10:58 PM Could someone tell us exactly how to hook up the extra LNB on the dave dish to get both 110 and 119 from a round dish? mxh6852 07-30-2004, 12:19 AM Could someone tell us exactly how to hook up the extra LNB on the dave dish to get both 110 and 119 from a round dish? I don't remember where I got this but I hope it helps. It is for a 3 LNB set up. The original idea for this was not mine. Because it works and there has been people asking if it could be done, I decided to share what I have done here. I have done one for myself, and one for a friend, so I know it works. As I said,this is what I have done, I do have more ideas, but have not tried them yet. I am sure you can come up with plenty of your own. Here is what you need..... A: 1-18 inch dish. I used a DirctTV dish because I was told that is the only one that will work. Something else may work, I don't know. You can experiment. B: 3-LNBs. Using the DirectTV LNBs will work the easiest. I used two DTV and one DISH at the 119 position. I used all dual feeds to get more options, but you can use single feeds for all or part. C: Some good glue. I used JB Weld. I suppose you could use ty-wraps or even bubble gum, but that's up to you! Getting the LNBs straight and keeping them that way is the object. D: Measuring device. I used a tape measure. A ruler, yard stick, whatever your comfortable with, as long as you can measure out 1/2 inch. E: Marker. I used a sharpie. Here is what you do...... Take the three LNBs and lay them on their backs on a flat surface, so the feed horns and the coax connectors are facing up. Set them so the coax connectors are closest to you. Because I am right handed, I am going to call the one on the right the first LNB. Now scoot the second LNB right up next to the first one. Now move it so it is about 1/2 inch higher than the first. Make marks so you can remember how it goes. Now take the third LNB and scoot it up next to the second. Now move it so it is about 1/2 inch higher than the second. Mark this also so you can remember the location. The 1/2 inch does not have to be exact, but fairly close. Hopefully, between reading and looking at the pictures, you'll see what we are trying to do. My simple mind took quite some time to get it figured out, so don't feel too bad!! Now you need to attach all three LNBs together in this offset fashion. I used JB Weld. I would suggest whatever you use that it can stand up to whatever Mother Nature can dish out in your part of the world. (DISH OUT, I kill me!!) I let my glue job cure overnight. When all is said and done, the LNB on your right will be looking at Sat. 101, the middle one 110, and the left one will be 119. Now you can mount the LNBs back to a dish. Mount the middle one to dish just like normal. As for tuning, I hooked up my DirectTV to the 101 LNB and tuned it till I had signal. You could also hook up DISH to the 119 LNB and tune it in. Once you have one of them working, The other two LNBs WILL be seeing signal at it's respective Sat. You will probably have to comprimise on signal strength depending on where you are and what you are watching. As of this writing, I have not done any real fine tuning. I would think adjusting the offset of the LNBs a little bit one way or the other would help. Right now, on a clear day, my DISH is at 95% to 100%, and DTV is at 75% to 80%. This setup also seems to be a little more susceptible to rain fade. As far as cabling, treat each LNB as if it were a separate dish. Mine is mounted at the top of my 10 foot C-band dish. I only have two coaxes running from the dish location into the house, for right now anyway. I ran a coax from each LNB output to a box mounted on the pole for the dish. I marked each cable with 101A, 101B, 110A, 110B, 119A, and 119B. For a box I gutted out a telephone network interface box, like the ones that mount on the side of your house. This way I don't have to drag out a ladder everytime I want to change something around. Inside the box I have the SW21 switches etc. for whatever arrangement I happen to be using at the time. Right now I have an output from 119, and one from 101 feeding a sw21 going to DTV. One output from 119, and one from 110 feeding a sw21 going to DISH. Good Luck and Happy Dishing!!!!! MADDOG47 07-30-2004, 04:29 AM cool thanks do you get ppv showtimes,hbos,encores,playboy,usa,and more? :yes: let me put it this way, YES i get all the channels i can handle 100's and 100's i have had my BB going on 4 months now and still have not gone thru all the channels. but i know i will be watching the tyson fight tonight !! :wacko: grazzzy 07-30-2004, 06:09 PM hey thanks!!!! i'll give it a shot at the first opportunity. mrmojo1 09-04-2004, 05:29 AM I am trying the three lnb setup on a 18" dave dish as suggested in this thread. Does anyone know if I have to change the elevation on my dish? It is currently pointed for dtv reception (I believe at the 101). I know I'll have to turn the dish because the center lnb will now be the 110, and the right will be the 101. But I don't know if I have to change the elevation. Thanks! grazzzy 09-04-2004, 06:52 PM you DO need to change elevation. this is because your dish arm needs to be on the 110 satellite, not dave. 110 is 3-4 dg. lower than dave. you also need to turn about 9dg to the right of dave. after you have a good 110 signal, go for the 119. just place another LNB to the left(from back of dish) of the 110 and raise it from 1/2 to 1-1/2 inches above the 110 LNB. you will soon get a signal for the 119 (transponder 2). the last thing you'll do is put the 3rd LNB to the right of the arm and down a bit for dave. mrmojo1 09-05-2004, 01:38 PM Thanks Grazzz. I'm going to try to tune things in with the 101 since my only dish pointing meter at this point is my RCA420RE for Dave. I hope the other two birds line up nice on their own. :cool: grazzzy 09-05-2004, 05:53 PM good luck. everything i've read, however, says to set the 110 bird first and then go to the 119 and to the dave bird. the signal meter in the pansat isn't all that bad, if you remember to select a transponder for the bird you are tuning. mrmojo1 09-05-2004, 09:01 PM I was able to lock in on the 101 with about 86 signal strength. I just hooked up the 110 direct, however, and get no signal. I switched to transponder 28, 30 and 32 on the RCA with no results :no: I don't have the Pansat to test with yet - just wanted to get the dish setup in the meantime. The RCA should work with the other birds, too, shouldn't it (provided, of course, that I select the transponder that gets the Dave signal from that bird)?? gregralston 09-06-2004, 01:12 AM I thought the pansat could only get Dish network + the FTA channels. Whats all this talk about pointing the dish at Direct TV? mrmojo1 09-06-2004, 07:54 AM To my knowledge, Pansat cannot descramble Dir***TV. However, people may still want to point the dish at the 101 to receive subscribed Direct signal; or in the event of a future hack; or, in this case, just to utilize the dishpointing feature of the Direct TV receiver to help find the other birds. rethridg72 09-12-2004, 08:01 AM Just so I'm clear...which transponders go with each bird? 110, 119, and Bev 91? Thanks. mrmojo1 09-12-2004, 05:20 PM Just so I'm clear...which transponders go with each bird? 110, 119, and Bev 91? Thanks. In the instructions I downloaded, 110 can use tp1 and 119 can use tp 23. Not sure about Bev. Mas 09-12-2004, 05:26 PM In the instructions I downloaded, 110 can use tp1 and 119 can use tp 23. Not sure about Bev. Try 11 for Bxx 91 mrmojo1 09-12-2004, 05:27 PM I have the 18" dave dish with the 110 lnb connected to the arm, and another lnb for 119 glued to the left (as viewed from the dish) and 1/2" higher. So I hooked up the Pansat to find the 110 bird. Got a 90 quality on Echo 8.6 and tp 1. Then I connected the 119 and checked quality on Echo 7 on tp 23. Zero. What's the deal? I thought if you get the 110 with this setup, the 119 will be there also. If I turn the dish to get the 119, I suppose I'll lose the 110. (I have a third lnb for the 101, but I'm not even going there yet.) Any help? Thanks. mojo grazzzy 09-13-2004, 03:11 PM once you have the 110 with a good signal DON'T MOVE THE DISH!!!! try TP-2 for the 119. unglue it and move it around some until you get the green signal. THEN fasten the LNB's together. hopeful63 09-13-2004, 10:02 PM http://www.incredibledss.ca/ try this website letshack32 mrmojo1 09-14-2004, 10:15 PM I finally got the 3 lnb system working. The 1/2" offset between lnb's needed to be more like 1 1/2" to 2" in my area. Just had to play a bit to maximize the signal. Thanks Grazzz, and all who help. The rest of us couldn't do it without you! :beer: :beer: grazzzy 09-15-2004, 05:57 PM I finally got the 3 lnb system working. The 1/2" offset between lnb's needed to be more like 1 1/2" to 2" in my area. Just had to play a bit to maximize the signal. Thanks Grazzz, and all who help. The rest of us couldn't do it without you! :beer: :beer: mojo: THANKS for the update. and sorry i neglected to mention that 1-1/2" thing; that's the way in my area also (we could be neighbors), but i didn't want to contradict all the very knowledgable testers who came up with that idea. :rolleyes: rethridg72 09-21-2004, 04:46 PM OK, so I got my Dish pro 500 with 110 and 119 working alright but I really want the Sunday Ticket. I know that ST is on BEV 91. I have a 2nd Dave dish that I could try to get the 91. I have looked and looked for in using my Pansat for 91..what program, etc should I look for? Any assistance would be appreciated. rainbow99 09-21-2004, 06:58 PM sunday ticket is on 91 bird but only using a nagra 2 card that they swap you for.it wont show video on your fta.sorry to break it to ya.your best bet is dish on local channels.should get most of the games. mrmojo1 09-21-2004, 08:15 PM OK, so I got my Dish pro 500 with 110 and 119 working alright but I really want the Sunday Ticket. I know that ST is on BEV 91. I have a 2nd Dave dish that I could try to get the 91. I have looked and looked for in using my Pansat for 91..what program, etc should I look for? Any assistance would be appreciated. I've been trying to get a friend's DP 500 working with Pansat with no luck. I think it has an internal switch which is screwing it up. Can that switch be bypassed (I haven't seen the dish up close)? Or can Pansat be programmed to work with that switch? Thanks. EDIT 9/22/04: Never mind. I just found the guide Manteca posted in the file download section under "STB gTools 1.85" :D cd001111 09-22-2004, 10:10 PM Ok, I took the plunge I"m waiting for my 2500A, I have a TRK S26 dish that I used for High Def Dave. My question is simple. Can I use the dish and 3 LNB se up? Do I have to Re-aim it? I'm interested in Charlie. If anyone knows for sure pls let me know. I don't look forward to climbing on my roof. I'm in the South East USA. |