If you want to know all about it, ask Woofy, papa, el bandeato, ramman or someone else here who doesn't own one. They know more about it than anyone else.

Thanks for taking the time to write your review. I appreciate it. EB

Thank you for honest review.

Sounds like a honest review.Thanks.

You guys that don't own one shouldn't even comment

Why not..is a review not up for discussion?

And did you write this review? sounds like mili's writing to me.

I might be wrong but don't you mod at mili's site under a different name?

Why not..is a review not up for discussion?

And did you write this review? sounds like mili's writing to me.

Of course my product review is up for discussion. I think it's fairly obvious what I was saying was that those that do not own a slinger should not be giving a performance review of the product.

If you think that mili would write such a skeptical review of the slinger then you are delusional. I waited until mili was banned to post my review so I wouldn't have to deal with his responses. Please take the time to read what I wrote once more. It's not exactly a stellar review.

I'll vouch 100% for the validity of Project's review. He and I have discussed this at length and I'll vouch completely for his objectivity here.

Of course my product review is up for discussion. I think it's fairly obvious what I was saying was that those that do not own a slinger should not be giving a performance review of the product.

If you think that mili would write such a skeptical review of the slinger then you are delusional. I waited until mili was banned to post my review so I wouldn't have to deal with his responses. Please take the time to read what I wrote once more. It's not exactly a stellar review.

Why do you call it "my product "

Why do you call it "my product "

it would read: My, product review.

his review of the product:yes:

Of course my product review is up for discussion. I think it's fairly obvious what I was saying was that those that do not own a slinger should not be giving a performance review of the product.

If you think that mili would write such a skeptical review of the slinger then you are delusional. I waited until mili was banned to post my review so I wouldn't have to deal with his responses. Please take the time to read what I wrote once more. It's not exactly a stellar review.

It was only a 3 day ban. So mili will be here tomorrow to respond.

it would read: My, product review.

his review of the product:yes:

you would..:p

Come on Woofy. When I wrote the phrase "my product review", I was referring to the review I was submitting about the product. I was not saying the slinger is my product.

I wrote the review in an effort to help out potential buyers in making their decision about whether or not to purchase one. I was not trying to encourage or discourage anyone from making a purchase. As an owner of a slinger I see how much hype and misinformation is going around regarding various aspects of the device. Mili would NEVER say some of the things I said in my write up. I don't see how my review constitutes a sales pitch. I even said there are better and safer ways to go right there in the review. Please read what I wrote again. Basically the only good thing I said about it was that it works.

I did read it project..It's your connection that made me think sales pitch..if that has changed then I do apologize.. It did seem to me as a soft core sales pitch...But I do like to inform the membership here of what happens these day's with the current situation for us all. And I always will.

you would..:p

??:unsure:

I think it was well written and informative. Well done project, it was an enjoyable read.

It was only a 3 day ban. So mili will be here tomorrow to respond.

well that sucks - guess we will have to work harder next time :)

RamMan562

Project2501
Thank You For The Helpful Information On This Device, This Answers A Lot Of Questions !!
Again Thanks !!

well that sucks - guess we will have to work harder next time :)

RamMan562


We Can Do It:lol::D

well that sucks - guess we will have to work harder next time :)

RamMan562

mili will hang himself...its just a matter of time with his mouth :D

mili will hang himself...its just a matter of time with his mouth :D

yea if the guy came in here being honest like project did then I don't think it would bug so many peeps. but coming in here saying freeze free, and all the other bs gets peeps a little upset and they want to make things difficult for him. At least for me it did.

One extremely awesome thing about this site is we are able to give are opinions on sponsor's products. Other sites one word of negativity you are banned cuz it effects the pocket of the owner..

Anyway thanks Project for your review..

RamMan562

Yea , lets all thank milis mod..

Yea , lets all thank milis mod..

Well if that's the case then Projects review means nothing then. So the only real review so far is Hondo's, But then he got it for free or at least i think so.

What we need is some reagular members who are using this thing to start posting about it.

RamMan562

I would tend to agree..we need a non bias report RamMan562..no argument here.

Did you guys read my post on page 1? I concur 100% with Project's review...in fact it pretty much is congruent with what I said...only with even more detail. Am I missing something here?

Project, Thanks for writing the review. Good Read.

WL

Did you guys read my post on page 1? I concur 100% with Project's review...in fact it pretty much is congruent with what I said...only with even more detail. Am I missing something here?

Yea but you got it for free so it really does not count.

RamMan562

What free makes him have less perspective?

What free makes him have less perspective?

Statistics would say he would lean more on one side then the other, I mean I doubt seriously he's going to stand up and say, this thing is a piece of chit, don't buy it, when the one who gave it to him is about to be a sponsor here at this site.

RamMan562

Thanks for the huge vote of confidence in my objectivity. :grr: I guess the fact I've been doing this shit for 7+ years doesn't mean shit right?

How about this? I send it to you and you try it. Send me an address and it's on the way to you. I'm sure you are so objective that you'll pen the best review ever, and maintain every ounce of objectivity...even if you're getting it free too.

I'm out of here...you guys have royally pissed me off now.

Thanks for the huge vote of confidence in my objectivity. :grr: I guess the fact I've been doing this shit for 7+ years doesn't mean shit right?

How about this? I send it to you and you try it. Send me an address and it's on the way to you. I'm sure you are so objective that you'll pen the best review ever, and maintain every ounce of objectivity...even if you're getting it free too.

I'm out of here...you guys have royally pissed me off now.

take it easy man - we just need more regular users who have tested this thing to give more feedback. But then again whats stopin mili sending in his goon squad to posts abunch of "best thing i ever baught" posts?

RamMan562

He is a site sponsor. And I have enough faith in Hondo to give his honest review. Statics's are fine, but I've never seen Hondo pull any punches with anything. I think if he had thought it was a piece of chit he would have said so.

Like it or not "and we see things much in the same way" this is one of the things that's working for people. Yes it very much has it's risk. Personally I wouldn't use it. And if some one ask I would say just that.

I think Project and Hondo have stated themselves well. What more could either of them say to make this less an issue?


Peace
WL

Lets face it though.....no regular user is going to spend time writing a thorough review like this. They spent their money so they dont care to write reviews. That leaves us with the folks that get them as test units.

Hondo was fair and so has been this guy. It is up to the individual to decide what is best for them before purchasing anything.

If we wait for the opinion of the regular user all we going to get is bellyaching and bitching posts...because if they are happily watching tv they are not even going to bother to come back here and tell us.

good posting. thanks.

Its still freezing.

Statistics would say he would lean more on one side then the other, I mean I doubt seriously he's going to stand up and say, this thing is a piece of chit, don't buy it, when the one who gave it to him is about to be a sponsor here at this site.

RamMan562

i disagree with you on that,if someone sent me a free product to try and give a honest review then thats what i would give.if the product had flaws i would say so,if the person that sent it did not like my review then to bad.my point is statistics don't mean anything,it is the integrity of the person that reviews it that counts.i doubt if hondo gives a shit about receiveing a free slinger and would alter his review.in fact he probably at this point is sorry he even took the slinger.you are basically saying he can be bought with a free item.that is bs.as for mili,he would stand a better chance of selling more slingers if he stopped insulting other members on this site,if the slinger was all that he says it would almost sell itself.

Well since we are talking about statistics :) statistics would say that mods would back up their fellow mods. All I'm saying is that we need more reviews from regular members. mr boners one line post has more weight on a real review then both hondo's and projects to me.

I guess the fact I've been doing this shit for 7+ years doesn't mean shit right?


To be honest and please don't take this personal but when I read "I haven't tested a DN IRD in a long time. Wasn't any need for me to these days." in your review, that tells me you really have not done a whole lot in those 7+ years. So to me it really does not mean anything.

Anyway if anyone bought this thing and would not mind sharing your experiences then please post.

RamMan562

You're right....I haven't tested a DN IRD since late 2005. Before that I did just about everything possible with it. I haven't ridden a bicycle since then too....I guess I don't know shit about that either.

I offered to send it to you to test out since none of us seem to have the integrity or credentials to satisfy you. Funny how you don't seem to be willing to take me up on that offer.

Ball's in your court man. Put up or shut up.

Its still freezing.

Mine is also freezing more than normal today. It began last night right after I posted my review.:p How do you like that? Unlike last night, it's watchable today, but it is freezing bad enough that I wouldn't try and record anything. That's my measure as to weather things are working good or not. If it's working good enough that I would record the program, then that's good enough in my book.

I'm sorry a lot of you guys are suspicious of my review. The source of this suspicion isn't my review. You guys are just bigoted against the slinger no matter what because of mili's association. I've even been accused of being one of mili's mods in this thread because of my review of the slinger. I'm quite certain that if one of mili's mods had posted a review like the one I wrote that they wouldn't be a mod much longer. What I wrote is far too honest for the slinger pusher man.

One of the most prominent mods here has even come out and agreed with my assessment of the product. What more do you guys need to know that my review was unbiased and honest? Virtually my entire review was badmouthing the product and the developers history. I don't understand how so many here were able to spin that into a supportive bias on my part. :no: I did notice though that these spinsters had no first hand experience with the slinger, so all they have to go on is speculation. I own a slinger, and yes, that makes me more qualified to discuss it's pro's and con's than someone who does not. :yes:

IMO, what I wrote is worthy of a sticky right next to Hondo's. People deserve to know what they're getting into before they buy a slinger. It's not something that someone who only has experience with FTA will be able to handle most likely. You have to have some background of actually doing some "testing" to set up a slinger properly. Did I perhaps simply offend some FTA fans that are jealous of the slinger?

All I'm saying is we need more reviews from peeps that are not a mod at mili's site or a mod at this site where this site sponsors this thing. Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

How about holding a contest or something? and who ever wins can do a review? only rule is you can't be a mod here or mod at mili's site.

RamMan562

All I'm saying is we need more reviews from peeps that are not a mod at mili's site or a mod at this site where this site sponsors this thing. Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

How about holding a contest or something? and who ever wins can do a review? only rule is you can't be a mod here or mod at mili's site.

RamMan562

Could you be more pig headed? Last time I checked Project2501 was not modding at mili's. I said right in my review that six months after the profits wane that the product would be useless! Did you even read my review??? You really should stow it until you actually have some experience with the product. You don't know what your talking about. Your just spewing bias against the product because you have a deep seated bias against mili. ...and since I don't share your bias, I'm a mod at mili's. :rolleyes: You have blinded yourself with your own bias and are refusing to accept any information that doesn't fit that preformed bias.

All I'm saying is we need more reviews from peeps that are not a mod at mili's site or a mod at this site where this site sponsors this thing. Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

How about holding a contest or something? and who ever wins can do a review? only rule is you can't be a mod here or mod at mili's site.

RamMan562

Why don't you buy one and write a review? I thank that would solve this issue.;):unsure::D

Why don't you buy one and write a review? I thank that would solve this issue.;):unsure::D

you have to be kidding right? and have mili post my personal info like he has to others in the past? Not a chance

RamMan562

You're right....I haven't tested a DN IRD since late 2005. Before that I did just about everything possible with it. I haven't ridden a bicycle since then too....I guess I don't know shit about that either.

I offered to send it to you to test out since none of us seem to have the integrity or credentials to satisfy you. Funny how you don't seem to be willing to take me up on that offer.

Ball's in your court man. Put up or shut up.

Why don't you buy one and write a review? I thank that would solve this issue.;):unsure::D

he does not even have to buy one, hondo offered to send him the one he received.we would look forward to his review:yes:

he does not even have to buy one, hondo offered to send him the one he received.we would look forward to his review:yes:

There you go, sounds like a good idea to me.....

Well seeing how I offered to ship you one for free that argument holds no water whatsoever.


I'd love to have more reviews...no problem with that at all. What I have a huge problem with is that you've attacked my integrity and credibilty not once but twice in this thread because you hate mili so badly you can't even begin to be objective. For someone with your knowledge and reputation to say I'm disappointed in you would be an understatement.

I thought a LOT more of you than what you've shown here.

anyone crazy enough to connect to a big server like that,,, thats bound to get busted is CRAZY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IMO of course.

you have to be kidding right? and have mili post my personal info like he has to others in the past? Not a chance

RamMan562

sounds to me like you have already made up your mind about the product, so why keep beating a dead horse??

Ya'll know that project and I have had a running battle for some time now but I read his review and was glad I did.the question you should ask yourself is, do I want to be hooked up to the internet so I can be traced back to my addy?

Is buy one. don't have to be from mili there are others selling them. if you don't want to be found then don't either way stop the BS and move on

I trust Project and Hondo I truly believe that both gave an honest assessment of the Slinger. I tried a different form of IKS and it didn't work for me at this time. So I called 1-800-DN-give me TV. It doesn't freeze. As far as my concerns about hooked up to the internet, it is not much of a concern. and yes there is other places to buy this and not from Mili.....

I really hate seeing guys with huge rep points bitching at each other over slinger.:huh:

I really hate seeing guys with huge rep points bitching at each other over slinger.:huh:

Then cover your eyes it will be over soon. That what all us old timer, high rep. point guys do is bitch all the time. It's better then setting around playing checkers.:beer::lol::D:hat::rolleyes:

I'm not sure you guys have thought about what IKS really is. The FTA's that are claiming to be working are using a public IKS server same as the slinger is. It's likely a server that's not as secure as the slinger server is either. IKS in various forms, public and private is the only thing that's working right now. The ONLY IKS that can be labeled as totally safe is a private network like can be set up with RQCS or NKshare. The FTA's that are working are at least as risky as the slinger. They're doing exactly the same thing. The choice at this time is to pay the money grubbing FTA manufacturers, or pay the money grubbing slinger developer. Actually, there is another option. You can choose to wait and hope that something better comes along. I think it will, but only time will prove that one way or another. At this time, the only option is IKS of some kind.

And thank you for extending that olive branch papa. I appreciate the gesture. :)

I'm not sure you guys have thought about what IKS really is. The FTA's that are claiming to be working are using a public IKS server same as the slinger is. It's likely a server that's not as secure as the slinger server is either. IKS in various forms, public and private is the only thing that's working right now. The ONLY IKS that can be labeled as totally safe is a private network like can be set up with RQCS or NKshare. The FTA's that are working are at least as risky as the slinger. They're doing exactly the same thing. The choice at this time is to pay the money grubbing FTA manufacturers, or pay the money grubbing slinger developer. Actually, there is another option. You can choose to wait and hope that something better comes along. I think it will, but only time will prove that one way or another. At this time, the only option is IKS of some kind.

And thank you for extending that olive branch papa. I appreciate the gesture. :)
that's incorrect(in red)

that's incorrect(in red)

Well damn man! Start a new thread and show the rest of us how to get set up. Nobody is totally comfortable with IKS, and they shouldn't be if they're using a public server. Now that we know there are options, fill us in and share your wealth of knowledge with the rest of us. I sincerely would like to know what the options are other than IKS and so would most everyone reading this thread I'm sure.

Well damn man! Start a new thread and show the rest of us how to get set up. Nobody is totally comfortable with IKS, and they shouldn't be if they're using a public server. Now that we know there are options, fill us in and share your wealth of knowledge with the rest of us. I sincerely would like to know what the options are other than IKS and so would most everyone reading this thread I'm sure.

sorry but this is a public site and I'm not a leaker
just letting you know iks isn't the only option

sorry but this is a public site and I'm not a leaker
just letting you know iks isn't the only option

Right! subscriptions are working just fine.

And you told everyone kokes was ghey..so you do leak.:p

Right! subscriptions are working just fine.

And you told everyone kokes was ghey..so you do leak.:p

sorry but it was common knowledge that kokes is ghey
if you think he was you better keep your back to the wall around him cause he is not was

sounds to me like you have already made up your mind about the product, so why keep beating a dead horse??

Ya'll know that project and I have had a running battle for some time now but I read his review and was glad I did.the question you should ask yourself is, do I want to be hooked up to the internet so I can be traced back to my addy?

Is buy one. don't have to be from mili there are others selling them. if you don't want to be found then don't either way stop the BS and move on

sorry, i do not want to get you upset or I might end up in the dog house lol

RamMan562

Well damn man! Start a new thread and show the rest of us how to get set up. Nobody is totally comfortable with IKS, and they shouldn't be if they're using a public server. Now that we know there are options, fill us in and share your wealth of knowledge with the rest of us. I sincerely would like to know what the options are other than IKS and so would most everyone reading this thread I'm sure.
Project,
Rotten is always doing that, you should know that by now. I know you didnt state PUBLIC, but it was inferred, and everyone knows it. All the people privy to 'underground solutions' should know better that to taunt us unwashed masses, right rotten?
As for your review, I saw it as objective. Hondo concurred, and offered his unit for free to cancel out the 'got it for free' bias. What more could you ask for? I personally would not lay out that much for the product and it's likely short lifespan. As has been pointed out, reputation, or lack there of must be considered.You are correct, people blasting it as a security risk that use FTA IKS are slapping them own selfs in the face.
Hondo, if I be narrowminded, obnoxious, hardheaded, and argumentitive would you send it to me instead? Hell, if that's all it takes to get a free one, the bosslady sez I can qualify for a dozen!:yes:
Aint it about time for this thread to die, or are we waiting around for mili to come stir the pot?

I'm sure the slinger is a good unit... Unsafe comes to mind for me... That's my opinion... If I were given one I wouldn't hook it up just for the fact no mater how safe these are "claimed" to be I wouldn't do it... Charlie spends all this money on a card swap etc. to shut down piracy. You don't think he is going to be focused on IKS and what ever else is supposed to be working? Testing is testing everybody is welcomed to do it and have their opinions, but some testing in my eyes is just foolish. I bet the slinger is a good setup and I hear it works, but I would not for one second think it is safe... I know milli is a sponsor here at dsstester but I would hate to see is people getting busted if that "server" were to be compromised. That would give us all a bad name here. I'm skeptical on the remarks written in the past on how these and I mean all IKS are safe... I wanna see the proof!!!! I say let the slingers be pushed here, but let it be known that you are possibly making yourself open to be traced right to your house... Would anybody personally guarantee these are safe?

Ok... my 2 cents... Dsstester said I haven't posted in a while and that I should...


Drockstar

to give honest review. i hope so because that all you got to give in life/ honest it cost nothing at all

I think Project gave an honest review of the slinger and it may or may not sway Members to go that way but it is totally their choice.

I believe that we ...Mods included....here at this site have voiced our opinions on any method of IKS.

It is unsafe and anyone that decides to go that route has been warned many many times by the Mods and Members here.

We cant tell someone what to do but we can and will warn of the dangers of this "testing" method...

Testing? No it isnt it is just a work around that may cause serious financial harm to those that decide to go that way.

In the long run a sub would be much cheaper if it comes down to an IKS server being taken down by Dish.

I wont take that chance.

good sticky:yes:

good sticky:yes:

How can it be a good sticky when the review is from a mod at mili's site and the other one who agreed with his review got it for free?

RamMan562

How can it be a good sticky when the review is from a mod at mili's site and the other one who agreed with his review got it for free?

RamMan562

why don't you take the slinger from hondo and post your review.it was offered to you and we would all like to see your review.you doubt hondo so try it your self.personally i could care less about the slinger but you keep doubting hondo's review,lets put this to rest

For sure Mili won't have your address.

How can it be a good sticky when the review is from a mod at mili's site and the other one who agreed with his review got it for free?

RamMan562

:no: Would you give it up already???? If you can't trust Hondo then you should probably baricade yourself in your house and not leave until the apocalypse. :wow:

How can it be a good sticky when the review is from a mod at mili's site and the other one who agreed with his review got it for free?

RamMan562

btw if you get it for free should we doubt your review or doesn't that apply to you

Not sure why you guys and gals are all fired up, chit its the 4th of july weekend :) we should all be in a good mood..

As stated from one of my previous posts:

All I'm saying is we need more reviews from peeps that are not a mod at mili's site or a mod at this site where this site sponsors this thing. Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

How about holding a contest or something? and who ever wins can do a review? only rule is you can't be a mod here or mod at mili's site.

RamMan562

Not sure why you guys and gals are all fired up, chit its the 4th of july weekend :) we should all be in a good mood..

As stated from one of my previous posts:



RamMan562

well your not a mod here so take it and review it.i would trust your review.whats the problem with doing that? mili might be a sponsor here but if you noticed he was banned for a few days.how's that for unbiased mods.show me any other site where a sponsor would be banned.

Ok - i will put it in other words:

Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

RamMan562

Ok - i will put it in other words:

Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

RamMan562

then give it a rest about hondo already.i am very surprised that you would doubt hondo at all.:no:

Maybe on another note you should also think about this, If there are no more testing methods and no more sponsors. How long do you expect to see Dsstesters? I think all of the mods has stated their case on this issue. And unless you are willing to test and write a review you should give it a rest.
There is more than enough negitive crap written about mili and his support or lack there of if anyone with eyes reads they will get it. I mean you got it. You want to tell us to chill, maybe you should do the same. I was beginning to think you let QRB log in with your account.

Peace
WL

You want to tell us to chill, maybe you should do the same. I was beginning to think you let QRB log in with your account.

Peace
WL

Ok - I will take a break. lol at your Qrb statement, he actually came by the irc the other day laughin..

RamMan562

Ok - i will put it in other words:

Knowing mili's history on his products not lasting more then a few months, and this type of testing "if you call it testing" there is no way I could give a honest review.

RamMan562

Hate to break it to you, but the slinger has already lasted more than a few months. (and even though your right that this line of products has a dismal history, they've all worked for more than six months) The slinger's been working for over six months so far. At least your willing to admit your inability to think objectively about the product. Also, I went to mili's site today, and I still didn't see where Project2501 was listed as a mod over there. Just because you and Woofy say it's so, don't make it so. Maybe you should step back and re-evaluate the difference between what you know and what you think you know.

Okay, since some people are asking for a review from a regular user so here it is:

I bought the Slinger about 3 weeks ago from EZTEKK and it is hooked up to a modded ViP722 through a Linksys wireless router. The slinger is connected directed to the router and NOT wirelessly through a bridge. I was programmed using v2.02 of the Slinger software and I think I have the router set correctly since according to the wife and kids, TV is usually working with minimal freezing during most of the day when I am at work. However, when I get home from work and try to watch TV, it freezes often enough to be annoying (maybe once in a couple of minutes). Since it is usually working during the day one can assume that my network is set up properly so the freezing during the evening hours are most likely due to the server being overloaded. Also, I agree with what Project said about PPV, you have to have a PVR to get the VOD channels. I would also like to add that you can not get any local channels with the Slinger, so if you're depending on you Dish receiver to get your locals after the digital switchover, you're out of luck. Also, a lot of the international channels are not available so if that is important to you, you'll still need a sub. As far as security goes, the Slinger is like any other IKS device, which has be greatly debated here already, so I'm not going to go over it. On a side note, like Project said, the constant freezing had made TV practically unwatchable this weekend.

Since this is the first time I've bought anything developed by magic man and I don't think I've bought from mili before, I don't think I'm qualified to comment on them. Suffice to say that it certainly looks like they have already build up a quite reputation within the testing community. So if their reputation holds true, once profits begin to shrink in 3 or 4 months, support for the device will stop. In short, I agree with Project's and Hondo's assessment of the device. IMHO, the Slinger should be considered a stop gap measure until something better becomes public. Also, for the price they are charging you'd be better off with a sub if support is only going to be short term.

Btw, I've been testing the last four years, all with Dish equipments (a 508, 921 (dead, a piece of crap), and ViP722 (921 replacement)) using rom102/103 and Atmega.

How can it be a good sticky when the review is from a mod at mili's site and the other one who agreed with his review got it for free?

RamMan562

BECAUSE I SAID SO:yes:I'm about tired of your tude dude:yes:

also I'm not the only one:no:

Yeah, I'm beginning to think his skull is as hard as the Ram in his avatar...
I test lots of stuff. Been around since the H Card battery days. I have 2 IKS devices right now the Nfusions...but am planning on buying a slinger real soon, maybe by weeks end. I work 2 jobs, the main one pays the bills and the second one pays the "toys", beer, etc. You got 3 reviews now....give it a rest or go buy one. If the support goes south in 6 months I will have already got my monies worth of the Slinger and it can go in the drawer with my H cards, football cards, casper card, rom 2,3, 10, 11, 102, 103, atmega's, P4's, P5's, etc. Like project said, it has been working a good 6 months, I think maybe a little longer. The only ISSUE with the Slinger (as with other IKs) is will the servers be able to handle the load at "peak" times. The more peeps that buy them, and the longer the N3 encryption stays in place the servers will have to be upgraded and more possibly added. That will be the real tale here. Project gave a great review. Hondo has always been honest and upfront with his posts...tell it like it is ....a hard quality to find these days. So give it a rest. So there you go....back to lurk mode now.

good luck in court bro

Yeah the satellite police is circling your house. Listen to this guy you will all be incarcerated based on your IP address alone. Lol.

Yeah the satellite police is circling your house. Listen to this guy you will all be incarcerated based on your IP address alone. Lol.
Do they have black helicopters too?

Yeah the satellite police is circling your house. Listen to this guy you will all be incarcerated based on your IP address alone. Lol.

Yea i remember the same retarded people saying the same thing in the dtv days. "its just a loader, i use it to program hotel keys, how can they bust me for that" Next thing you know they were writing out checks to get the shit dropped.

Its not about right or wrong, its come's down to if you have the money to defend yourself or not.

RamMan562

Do they have black helicopters too?

If yea, it`s gonna be a surprise to me. I know they got black vans w/t the logo Flowers By Irene so far!!!

Everyone sued was sued based on hard customer records. PayPal receipt and so forth. Go scare some Sonicview and nFusion users.

As far as the reviews are going, we have 3 already (one of them from Hondo) and I don`t think that any of them was biased.

spin it however you like, its no joke. Ask the peeps that got one of those letters. Some caved in and paid the $3500 bucks, some ignored em and never heard again from them. Some it caused some major family issues. Nothing to take lightly.

RamMan562

OK this part of this needs to be posted in Legal not here. This thread was a review that went all wrong. The thread is closed. I will clean it up and let the reviews speak for them selves it's been stated and Over stated a person can take a hit for using this type of device. Some of us old timers know and understand the effects of using and paying with a credit card or paypal.
Do your home work. Become informed before taking that leap of faith. Use anonymous debit cards. Never leave to chance getting caught with your pants down it will come back to haunt you.

Peace
WL

Review amended to suit the atmosphere provided by dsstester.