well is it...and if not hows bins working?

http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=107324

Read the above thread. Decide for yourself.

i read ppl here are afraid of IKS.. LOL Why dont you u just use a cablehack modem.... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such Noobs... You know you can get a modem and plug into your wall from cablehack.. I wont put link... look it up.. Get new IP FREE and it cant be traced no way.. I do speed test and it says Im 400 miles away from where I live.

LOL IKS being traced.

i read ppl here are afraid of IKS.. LOL Why dont you u just use a cablehack modem.... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such Noobs... You know you can get a modem and plug into your wall from cablehack.. I wont put link... look it up.. Get new IP FREE and it cant be traced no way.. I do speed test and it says Im 400 miles away from where I live.

LOL IKS being traced.

Due to your overwhelming knowledge of internet protocol, how could one argue with such reasoning?

FACT IS:

You put it out there, it CAN BE TRACED!

End of story.

i read ppl here are afraid of IKS.. LOL Why dont you u just use a cablehack modem.... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It isn't a mater of being afraid of IKS, it is understanding the dangers of using this technology, which is just a version of card sharing.

Such Noobs... You know you can get a modem and plug into your wall from cablehack.. I wont put link... look it up.. Get new IP FREE and it cant be traced no way.. I do speed test and it says Im 400 miles away from where I live.

LOL IKS being traced.

The Noobs are the one posts wonders like yourself pushing something they really don't understand. Isn't it odd that the people pushing IKS, always have only a few posts, often use old, rambling cut-n-paste misinformation, and never explain any technology properly? And those that do offer intelligent arguments and are concerned about the dangers of IKS are the ones with lots of posts and high rep points. How can it be that no VIP sees IKS like you do? If it was just a difference of educated opinions then at least one or two, experienced, knoledgable posters would support your side of the argument. So far there hasn't been one! Just a lot of one post Noobs! :)

Now you want to try to make IKS safe by using techniques that can get you nailed for theft of service from your ISP and banned for life! It must be difficult or at least annoying to deal with hacked cable modems, otherwise why do they ban customers for life that get caught doing it? But the fact that customers get such bans mean that they can be detected.

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/394
'But it only took six hours for AT&T to catch Hein, cut him off, and ban him from their network for life. "They said they considered it theft of service," recalls Hein. "There were no second chances."'

If you are a true rebel, and like to court trouble, go for it. If you like to fly under the radar and want to know if it is safe, the simple answer is: No!

It isn't a mater of being afraid of IKS, it is understanding the dangers of using this technology, which is just a version of card sharing.



The Noobs are the one posts wonders like yourself pushing something they really don't understand. Isn't it odd that the people pushing IKS, always have only a few posts, often use old, rambling cut-n-paste misinformation, and never explain any technology properly? And those that do offer intelligent arguments and are concerned about the dangers of IKS are the ones with lots of posts and high rep points. How can it be that no VIP sees IKS like you do? If it was just a difference of educated opinions then at least one or two, experienced, knoledgable posters would support your side of the argument. So far there hasn't been one! Just a lot of one post Noobs! :)

Now you want to try to make IKS safe by using techniques that can get you nailed for theft of service from your ISP and banned for life! It must be difficult or at least annoying to deal with hacked cable modems, otherwise why do they ban customers for life that get caught doing it? But the fact that customers get such bans mean that they can be detected.

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/394
'But it only took six hours for AT&T to catch Hein, cut him off, and ban him from their network for life. "They said they considered it theft of service," recalls Hein. "There were no second chances."'

If you are a true rebel, and like to court trouble, go for it. If you like to fly under the radar and want to know if it is safe, the simple answer is: No!

couldn't have said it better myself....thanks, Phant...saved me all that typing...lol

couldn't have said it better myself....thanks, Phant...saved me all that typing...lol

Yes I agree. Phant couldn't have been more clear then that. Hope everyone reads it and understands it. If anyone doesn't understand it .. read it again.

more IKS schills...
never ends...
sales must still be slumping

How is cable modem hacking connected to IKS reciever testing.
Am new to this - so excuse my ignorance

the cable modem hack actually 'steals' service, the modem isn't initialized for your account, so it gives a false IP (not really false, not just one that can, they say, be connected to you).. unfortunately,, the hacked modem IS tracable,, and is quite illegal as well.. (see phants post above),,
since it was proven that your IP can be easily traced using IKS,, (although they said it can't),, they've decided that it's best now to use a proxy (which they said you didn't need),, or better yet,, this specific model modem (which they blatantly sell on a public web site, stating for a fact, it can be used for FTA IKS.. go figure...

idiots..

but not as bad as the ones being conned into buying the thing..

from what little I have been able to teach myself about internet protocal is along with the IP address in the packets being exchanged, is also your MAC or (Media Access Code) which is sort of a licenese plate identifying your perticular computer on the network, and while it can be changed most dont even know it exists let alone how to change it, someone serious enough about trying to find you may be able to scan the net waiting for your MAC to pop up like "like the old game with little frogs that pop up and down while you try to nail them with your hammer" it only takes one WHACK! :wacko: :( and the game is over. I could be wrong in my understanding of this, but I am pertty sure anyone could be found if there were enough time and recources implemented.......

I have read more than enough info on IKS to make up my mind- What I dont understand is that with the support of Sonicview/Viewsat and others- why even consider taking the risk- The units go down at 4:00pm once and awhile- and a new file is posted at 2:00am the next day. If you are not really "testing"-and you are using the bins - they come out so fast now, and even if they weren't -it doesn't matter, why leave a trail and expose yourself and stick your boys out there to be hacked off???
Makes absolutley no sense to me JMHO

AS the world turns and cardswap now in effect...on a "nameless" forum they claim that the Neosat 2000 ipro with new hybrid iks will be nagra 3 compliant...ie not effected by cardswap...any thoughts on this one peoples?

Magic0 said it best...."put it out there....it can be traced".... that is the long and short of it, period. The only absolutely untraceable way known is TVRO (and even that can be tracked if the sites posting fixes are monitored closely enough)

If you transmit even a short hiccup....it can be traced....and it all depends on whether or not (AT , D***, B3*) or whoever has the technology and expertise and considers it important enough to warrant the effort to track it down.....much like the old addage " a lock is simply a deterrant to help an honest person maintain their honesty... a thief is still a thief and no amount of security or defensive measure is likely to effect a change in their character..... and the number of us willing to commit theft is directly proportional to the reward to be had for the risk.....personally it would be great if the providers would offer a la carte programming at reasonable rates....if that option was offered, many sites would simply disappear due to lack of support or membership..... but have no fear.... corporate greed will never allow that to happen.... because they might miss a few cents profit and their stockholders would go ballistic...."Greed is Good"....(Michael Douglas in the movie.... Wall Street....

What about using IKS on your neighbors unsecured wifi? It's easily done. Civil charges? Laughable!

Is IKS really working for N3 or is it a scam?

It only works on some channels. It is not a hack, just a workaround. IKS, just uses a sub reciever and brodcasts the Cw to the IKS receiver to open up the channels. You only get what the person who runs the server subscribes to, which in the Nfusion case is a basic sub to B3V the Canadian version of DI$H is. Once N3 is fully implemented
they probably will sub to the top 250 version of DI$H. The key word here is probably.
There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get anything with IKS; if the server goes down, gets busted, etc. you won't have TV. Also if the provider's wanted to they could get your IP Address and track this info right to your front door. You have to be very careful
with IKs. The best thing to do is to use the Serarch button and type in IKS and read up on the Slinger, Nfusion, Sonicview Dongle, etc and get more info before you decide.
In a week, give or take a couple days there will be NO TV with any FTA reciever or Atmega. June 09 is the last day of N2 on local channels, and they go out last after the othersl. All should be out by June 12, the day of the Digital TV switchover for over the air antenna's for local channel. Then there will be alot of black screens if people didn't prepare for this. Good luck, better get a "Plan B" going now...

The SLingers get you all channels except locals. Porn and all other channels including VOD PPV (PVR needed), HDTV is now open on ViP.

The Slinger works just fine. As mili says it gets all the channels except locals. The early version of Slinger had problems with freezing, but each version has been better than the last and the latest version (v2.01) is freeze free!

Sometimes the Slinger people make updates to their server and this can occur very late in the evening/early morning. Since the release of v2.01 they have updated twice. The Slinger server is located in S.W. China! It is rumored they also have a mirror site in Hong Kong which is a short drive from the China server.

All in all I am satisfied with the product and it's offerings.